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    Multi-vitamins are now bad for you....

    Says the communist news network (CNN). Thought I'd heard it all, but this takes the cake. Yep that's right, avoid well made vitamin supplements, and stuff your face with GMO's, steroid/hormone injected garbage. Don't attempt to make yourself healthier, just languish in lard and fatness.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/health...amins-studies/


    I for one will continue to take supplements, including multi-vitamins, and push myself mentally and physically through aerobic and anaerobic exercise. Why? Because THAT is the real fountain of youth. Giving your body the vitamin, minerals, and physical/mental exercise is the key to being able to function throughout your life (even into the later years).

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dub View Post
    Says the communist news network (CNN). Thought I'd heard it all, but this takes the cake. Yep that's right, avoid well made vitamin supplements, and stuff your face with GMO's, steroid/hormone injected garbage. Don't attempt to make yourself healthier, just languish in lard and fatness.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/health...amins-studies/

    I for one will continue to take supplements, including multi-vitamins, and push myself mentally and physically through aerobic and anaerobic exercise. Why? Because THAT is the real fountain of youth. Giving your body the vitamin, minerals, and physical/mental exercise is the key to being able to function throughout your life (even into the later years).
    I'm not defending the conclusion of this paper per se, as I have not fully read it yet, but I the main take home appears to be not that multi vitamins are "bad" for you, but they don't confer a benefit when looking at some specific endpoints, such as mortality, stroke and heart attacks.

    It's a review of other studies, vs. the result of an actual study, and needs to be examined as to its merits, or lack there of. BTW, I actually thought the people they interviewed as a counter view did a decent job of pointing out some obvious flaws of the review.

    The media loves to jump on a study that shows nutritional supplements in a negative light. Of course they now make the bulk of revenue from pharma ads pushing all manner of drugs.
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    I read this earlier this morning. Here at my place of work (A Level I Trauma Center) the RPhs and PharmDs are talking about it and they say they agree with the study. I just keep my thoughts to myself. . .

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    You mean I have to give up my Orange Triad! LOL

    Seriously, have you noticed that the diet and nutrition world HAS to have a current enemy? This enemy gets changed out every few years or so. This way that world can make some money off the scare surrounding the enemy of the day.

    First it was red meat...then red meat was deemed ok.

    Then it was fat...everything had to be no fat. Now...fat is ok-d by many experts.

    Next up was carbs and the Atkins craze. You could eat all the greasy meat you want but don't you dare eat that piece of bread! LOL

    Then came salt. Salt gives you high blood pressure and we had to go to low sodium this and that. Now...it seems some salt is cool

    After this it was wheat and gluten. Nope...cannot have anything that has wheat at all.

    Now it is the Paleo craze and that is a combination of no wheat and no grains or dairy. This time around...they needed multiple enemies because people were catching on the the "absolutely stay away from ____" type approaches. In 5 years...like Atkins...nobody will be doing this diet plan, either.

    This is much like the global warming/climate change crowd....just changing their theories and adjusting it all as time goes by.

    ..anybody else noticing this trend?

    It gives me a headache.

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    Its kind getting a little OVER complected IMHO. First people need to agree on two points, which are there own topics.
    Are you getting the vitamins/minerals you need from your Multi-vitamin?
    Does your body need certain vitamins/minerals to function and be healthy?

    simple right, if you believe "Yes" to the above questions, then you start discussing If they are worth anything.

    For myself I don't get those vitamins and minerals from a balance diet, I eat on the run and skip/miss meals all the time.
    I would think that most of america is in the same boat, cooking or finding the time to make/buy a balanced meal 3 times a day isn't that easy.

    Where to I get those vitamins that I need everyday then. Well you guessed it a Multi-Vitamin. Do I believe they are a cure of any of the worlds health problems doubtful, but that fact remains that humans need Vitamins & minerals, And if you don't get them from food. Where else ?

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    It is probably better to get your vitamins and minerals from whole foods than from a pill created in mass volume in a lab.

    I have similar problems...being on the run. However, instead of going into the fast food joint...how about going in the closest grocery store and grabbing a few fresh fruits, a bag of roasted almonds and a container of Greek yogurt? Maybe a packet of tuna? I started making choices like this rather than the fast food joint in the same parking lot and I notice that I am losing weight, feel better and my digestive system is much more stable.

    You can make better choices when you are "on the run" it just takes some creative thinking.

    -brickboy240

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    Sounds like Big Pharm is trying to get rid of some competition........
    I have stayed away from fast food for years, switched in more veggies and fruit into my diet and decreased my alcohol intake...ARGH! However, I have lost about 15 lbs, beer gut is almost completely gone and for the first time in my life in can do 12-15 pullups/chin-ups continuously. A stable diet really helps and I will continue to take my vitamins.

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    Doctors were publishing this info in the 1960's for goodness sake! I distinctly remember reading an analysis of multivitamins in one of Dad's med books discussing how unless your body was significantly deprived of a specific nutrient/mineral, you were literally pissing away your money and your multivitamin. This info is NOTHING NEW.

    That said, I do often take a multi, or other supplement more to make sure it is available to the body in case I do not get it from normal dietary intake. I can afford to piss it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duece71 View Post
    Sounds like Big Pharm is trying to get rid of some competition........
    I have stayed away from fast food for years, switched in more veggies and fruit into my diet and decreased my alcohol intake...ARGH! However, I have lost about 15 lbs, beer gut is almost completely gone and for the first time in my life in can do 12-15 pullups/chin-ups continuously. A stable diet really helps and I will continue to take my vitamins.
    Well quit it man. My doc and and my pharmacist say all of that is bad for you.

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    "Hey doc, I have restless leg symptom; what do you think about getting more excercise and improving my nutrition? Can you help me with that?"

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