Current production Remington shotguns

[Slater]

I'm looking hard at buying a Remington 870P. I've also heard a number of folks remarking about current production 870's being spotty in the area of QC. For anyone that's bought an 870P in, say, the last year or so - any issues with fit, finish, or function?

[sierra 223]

Just from what I heard, I think as long as you don't get the Express model the QC is still pretty good.

With the Express I think there is a decent chance that you will have to polish out the chamber for positive extraction.

[GH41]

"With the Express I think there is a decent chance that you will have to polish out the chamber for positive extraction"

If you ever run across a picture of one of these rough chambers I'd like to see it. As I understand it the P models are assembled by a team that only assembles P guns. At the price point the Express models sell for eyeballing every part of the gun ain't going to happen. GH

[26 Inf]

Refer to the last sticky above. It is put out at every Remington Armorer's Course I've attended.

Here is the salient part:

• 870 Police shotguns go thru a special 23 station check list – ranging from visual
inspection, functional testing, test firing, and final inspection.

• All Police shotguns are assembled in a “special build area” at the plant in Ilion, NY.
This section is secured and serves only to build LE and Military shotguns, with the
same factory personnel working at that assignment each shift.

• All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure
top quality and functionality.

[hatidua]

I purchased an 870P about 14 months ago. It went back to Remington to deal with extraction issues a month after purchase. It returned from Remington and functioned as if they never opened the box - unable to fire three rounds in a row without it refusing to extract a spent round. Having lost faith in Remington's "fix", I took it to my local gunsmith along with a large box of ammo and told him to call me when he had it running as it should.

If I were to wind back the clock and do it all over again, I'd go to a pawn shop and buy an old one from back when they knew how to make them. NONE of my older 870's have ever hiccuped even once. The two that I've bought in the last 24 months have been a headache and the 870P was every bit as troublesome as the Express.

[Saginaw79]

I bought one not long back, and its rough for sure, seems to shave of part of the hull during chambering or extraction, but runs just not as smooth as a Mossberg. I got a screaming deal on it with the SF x300 etc, but wont buy another Remington again, and wont pay AR level prices for a P model here either. Ill stick with mossberg

[austinN4]

FWIIW, I had an Express model #25077 from 2006 with factory extended mag and never once had a feed or extraction problem with all types of ammo over the 3 years I used it.

[sierra 223]

A lot of the newer Express models are needing to have their chambers polished out.

Just had one worked on, seems to be fixed but haven't put enough shells through it to be confident yet.

Part of the blame also goes to the low cost shells that are not made with brass.

[brushy bill]

I purchased an 870P about 14 months ago. It went back to Remington to deal with extraction issues a month after purchase. It returned from Remington and functioned as if they never opened the box - unable to fire three rounds in a row without it refusing to extract a spent round. Having lost faith in Remington's "fix", I took it to my local gunsmith along with a large box of ammo and told him to call me when he had it running as it should.

If I were to wind back the clock and do it all over again, I'd go to a pawn shop and buy an old one from back when they knew how to make them. NONE of my older 870's have ever hiccuped even once. The two that I've bought in the last 24 months have been a headache and the 870P was every bit as troublesome as the Express.

Sorry to hear. I knew the lower tier Remington was lacking, but didn't realize QC had slipped on the Police model as well. Glad I got mine before QC started getting spotty.

[G19A3]

Specifically, American manufacturing is not what it once was. The above Remingtons, USA made SIGs, USA made Glocks, USA made AK's,....the list goes on. All previously proven designs, except manufactured here. The Smith & Wesson M&P series (somewhat a new design, but nothing evolutionary) has been out how long?

I don't know what it is, unions? Many European manufacturers are unionized. Lack of pride? I don't know, but it is a sad state of affairs.