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    I currently have a Geiselle SSA, an ALG ACT, and an American Trigger Co along with a couple of GI issue FCGs from parts kits. They all have their merits and faults.

    The GI triggers. Came in the parts kits and I think I "lucked out." Definitely feel smoother now than they did when they were dropped into the rifle after all of the firing. Still pretty damn heavy on their pulls, with both north of 7lbs.

    The Geiselle is absolutely brilliant, and not that bad when you think of it as a one time purchase. You'll be swapping the barrel before you swap that FCG. Some people don't like the break, and I was hunting for something "better" so I gave the next one a try in my next build.

    The American Trigger Co "Gold" trigger was set up on a distance rifle. Something to be able to shoot out past 200 and have the trigger nice and light, mimicking my bolt action rifle (Weatherby Mark V). I can say that I achieved that goal. The break on this thing is a super light and after a very light first stage. I tried it out with the guarantee that they will buy it back in a month if you're not happy. SOLD. I've been running it since, and for it's chosen role it's fantastic. Light for a duty or HD rifle, but if you're following the rules (finger off the trigger until your sights are on target) it would be no worry.

    Then, on the recommendation of a friend I went and tried the ALG ACT for my most recent build. Heavier pull (have not yet gauged it) but its an easy break and a super simple reset. For $150 less than the other options, it's a solid trigger than I'm very happy with.

    Next go round will be an SDC simply because I always enjoy trying new things and the flat trigger mimicking one of my favorite 1911's seems like it could be enjoyable to shoot.

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    A recent thread on Geiselle triggers: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=144781

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    As someone who doesn't routinely snap carrots, candy canes, icicles, and glass rods in half... is there another way to explain the trigger break?
    "I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein

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    I use factory Armalite 2 stage triggers in my rifles. It's not so light that it could pose certain legal issues in my duty rifle. Also, being that it's a factory type item, i feel the reliability is somewhat higher when compared to certain triggers set up for gun games.

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    Tried the SSA and the SSA-E in the store because they had both in rifles. I preferred the SSA-E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    As someone who doesn't routinely snap carrots, candy canes, icicles, and glass rods in half... is there another way to explain the trigger break?
    Ha! It's basically how much more force it takes to release the trigger once you hit "the wall" and how quickly the hammer is released once at the "wall". EG: less increased force and quicker release with less trigger travel= crisper trigger. Sometimes people compare very "light" crisp triggers to a "mouse click", very smooth and no perceptible take up before the hammerfall.
    Last edited by quaesitor logica; 01-05-14 at 10:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    As someone who doesn't routinely snap carrots, candy canes, icicles, and glass rods in half... is there another way to explain the trigger break?
    "Carrots" require a consistent gradual loading before the "snap" of the trigger breaking. Like the bending of a carrot before the snap.

    "Candy Cane" is describing one that has a little bit of a bend, then the snap.

    "Glass Rod" would be a trigger with ZERO feel of travel before the snap of the break.

    "Icicle" is a really light glass rod trigger (as an icicle requires less force to break than a glass rod).

    Best I can describe the terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dentron View Post
    Do you have experience with the SSA? I ask because I am trying to decide between the SSA and the SSA-E and don't have a place to try one out.
    I have two SSAs and one SSA-E and the SSA-E is definitely smoother, but once I discovered the SD-3G, that's what all of my new builds get - unless it's a cheap build, then I go ALG-QMS. If you're used to a single stage and don't mind the hair-trigger, I'd say go for the SD-3G - while technically a 2-stage, it feels like a single to me. As slowly as I pull the trigger, I can't feel a second stage - it just goes from zero to bang in a split second. Once you shoot one, you'll understand. If you don't like the flat-bowed trigger, you can opt for the S3G version which is basically the same but with a bowed trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Stormin_ View Post
    "Carrots" require a consistent gradual loading before the "snap" of the trigger breaking. Like the bending of a carrot before the snap.

    "Candy Cane" is describing one that has a little bit of a bend, then the snap.

    "Glass Rod" would be a trigger with ZERO feel of travel before the snap of the break.

    "Icicle" is a really light glass rod trigger (as an icicle requires less force to break than a glass rod).

    Best I can describe the terms.
    Thanks. I myself felt annoyed reading all of that on the product site and just bought the single-stage combat oriented trigger from Kyle Lamb and was done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    As someone who doesn't routinely snap carrots, candy canes, icicles, and glass rods in half... is there another way to explain the trigger break?
    Seems to me the differences are not just the weight, but the feel of the trigger pull once the wall is reached and the pull weight needs to increase to drop the hammer. With glass rod/icicle, there is hardly any trigger movement, no creep of warning that hammer will drop, only a sensation of increasing pull effort and then BOOM. With carrot stick, there is a slight, tiny perception of trigger movement, or roll, as pull effort increases then BOOM. Pull weight may be the same in both situations, crispiness of actual release is the difference, in my opinion. Glass rod/icicle seems to allow more of a surprise hammer drop, so less chance of anticipation and flinching, but also allows a predictable timed release on command, useful when wind changes or an unsteady hold require it, as sights wander in and out of correct alignment.

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