I trying to decide between these two optics anyone have any experience with either?
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I trying to decide between these two optics anyone have any experience with either?
I haven't used the Burris XTR, however i have spent some time behind the Vortex PST 1-4 and it seems like a great optic for the money. The Vortex is definitely very well built and has very nice and clear glass (comparable to a lot of the higher end optics). I like the exposed turrets for dialing, and the clicks are crisp and not mushy. The illumination is pretty bright in daylight compared to some of the other variable optics, and has an 'off' mode in between each setting so you can keep it one turn away from your preferred setting.
In terms of shooting, they eye relief on 1x is fantastic, and it seems to be a true 1x at the lowest setting, and the eye relief is pretty good at 4x as well. The reticle is very usable and seems very precise, especially for the longer range shots. If you are focused more on the longer range use, this reticle is awesome, whereas something like the Burris MTAC might be a little better suited for quick close range shots and 3-gun type shooting. But all in all, without jumping up into the $1,000 + range for a variable optic, the Vortex seems like a hard scope to beat.
I also recently purchased and shot a Primary Arms 1-6 ACSS, and I was very impressed with it for the money. The glass isn't quite as crisp as the Vortex, but it has more magnification, and I really like the ACSS reticle. Might be worth looking at as well.
I have really enjoyed my 1-4x PST. I chose the capped turrets for mine, for no reason other than I prefer to use hold overs with the ranges I shoot most frequently. My criticisms of it are as follows:
1. The illumination is not daytime visible - This really doesn't effect me much, but it would be nice for the illumination to work in daylight.
2. The reticle is fine and can sometimes be difficult to pick up against a dark background - This also doesn't affect me much, but I have read complaints from others and it should be mentioned.
I have decided to move to a 2.5-10x scope to make shooting out past 500-600 yards a bit easier for myself, but the 1-4x has served me well and will be going on the new rifle I am starting to put together.
The PST is a great scope for the money and it is lighter and shorter than the XTR. But I like the XTR's reticle better, easier to and faster to pick up on 1x, especially against dark back grounds. Glass wise they are about equal but i think the Burris has better transmission at LL and a more forgiving eyebox. I also like the BDC and SFP set up on the Burris XTR 1x4, it is spot on to 300 yards with 64g GDSP. Niether have daylight visible illumination. Size wise the Vortex edges out the Burris not by much, inside 300 yards performance wise the Burris edges out the Vortex IME. Bang for the buck goes to the Vortex at $499. Personal taste I like the Burris.
In the end I would be happy with either.
Last edited by quaesitor logica; 01-30-14 at 16:18.
Having used both, I just bought another Burris XTR 1-4. The reticle is easier to see and if you are pushing 75's at 2630 from a 16" gun, the reticle matches up every 50 yards out to 500
Primary Arms ACSS wild be ideal with their price point but they are out of stock!I have also been considering the Vortex for sometime now some I'm a little interested in this thread! I haven't heard too many good things about the Burris so I'm really curious about that one as well! TIA!
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Depends on where you like your strengths. If you like a more visible reticle, a quick and simple BDC and are going to be shooting .223 /5.56 the XTR is hard to beat. I think the glass quality is better in Low light in the XTR. .. The Burris XTR 1x4 , FF3, PEPR mount package @ $599 deal going on at SWFA is very hard to beat.
Check out a n XTR and a PST before deciding. Side by side the differences that dont seem like much will stick out.
From what I have read about the Primary Arms ACSS you will be taking a definite step down in glass and build quality. You also pay alot less so it depends on what your willing to give up I suppose.I have been on the verge of buying a Vortex PST 1x4 on several occasions , it is a good scope for a very reasonable price, but so far it has lost out to a Weaver Tactical 1-5, an ACOG TA33R8, a Burris MTAC 1x4, a Burris XTR 1-4 , a Vortex 2.5-10x 32 FFP and an Aimpoint PRO.
Last edited by quaesitor logica; 01-30-14 at 19:54.
I have had both. I liked the XTR for closer in stuff more, and the PST for <100yds
The XTR reticle is a BDC type and set for a 62gr bullet at 2800ish FPS at 2000 feet. It would be great if you reload and can match the reticle. It is a very busy reticle, so make sure you really think about it. The PST is a mil or moa based reticle, so you can figure out your load and where it hits for each stadia line. The reticle is thin with a broken circle around the center. I prefer the Vortex in pretty much every category.
Matt
Both are low end scopes. If one is set on this level of scope, I would wait until the Burris XTR II's come out to evaluate. They are touting daylight bright illumination and a better reticle than the previous XTR version.
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