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    Range: Indoor 25m
    Light: 20% On 80% Off
    Rifle: Noveske NSR Recon 16”, HSP WML Inforce, Magpul MS4, B5 Bravo, SD-E
    Optic: USO SR4c [1lb 3.8oz] mounted on Bobro Extended [7.7oz] –Weight taken from postal scale

    We originally planned to run our set ups on an outdoor range/shoot house, however unplanned events regulated us to the indoor range. First thing you notice about the USO is that it is a beast, and would more than likely take a beating. If you have a bolt override jam and can’t transition to your secondary you can easily use it as a club. Which we did practice and had a hell of a time clearing it.
    In a subjective unscientific comparison to the following optics here is how 3 shooters [various military, LEO, competition backgrounds] reviewed the SR4c at this engagement range.

    I will have to forewarn you, this will sound like 4/6 dentists recommend...LMAO. Take it for what it's worth - which may be less than a Iraqi Dinar.

    Vs. Aimpoint T1 – Virtual tie with lights, however when we shut out the lights on the same small [4x6 cards] targets all preferred the ability to dial up magnification for PID and precision hits. Each shooter looked at a different COF as it was changed out for every shooter using standing, kneeling and prone. This will probably change once we run out to 200-250 as the requirements for PID will obviously increase.

    Vs. ACOG TA44SG – While the TA44SG glass was clear and had slight magnification 1.5x, it was outshined by the SR4c RDS in low light even thought the reticle was still visible. 1/3 liked the lollipop reticle of the COG, 2/3 preferred the single RDS.

    Vs. VXR 1.25-4– For glass clarity & full 1-4 range, the USO took the prize. With that said, the VXR is a lot of optic for the money. Taking into consideration the distance and value for what you get it’s really hard to beat the VXR. The SR4c is the better optic, but it should be for almost 3x the amount. But is it 3x better, none of us thought so. This isn’t a knock on the SR4c, rather an option for those that aren’t willing to pay the price of admission of the USO. The weight seemed similar due to running the VXR on a heavy kitted cheese grater LWRC vs. the lighter Noveske Recon which points to slimming a rifle down to accommodate a heavier optic . Without a doubt the VXR on the lighter rifle would be noticeable. Overall 3/3 prefer the USO, however 3/3 prefer the VXR price.

    Vs. MK6 – Both share excellent glass quality. 3/3 shooters felt that the eye box on the MK6 was a little tight compared to the USO. Also, the illuminated reticle took more effort to keep from flickering. Really nitpicking at the flicker, but if you are used to Aimpoint like RDS you will mentally think that the battery is low or something is wrong with the optic. Lighter weight than the USO and Leupold guarantee, there isn’t much to not like. Having more X is a plus, but we won’t see that till we get out further. At this range, 3/3 shooters preferred the USO for the RDS & larger eyebox. 1/3 like the CMR reticle, 2/3 found it too busy. Would like to see the TMR reticle.

    If there was an optic to compare this to it would probably be the SB Short Dot 1.1-4. USO claims a battery life of 8000, so this one is just going to stay on and we will see how she goes. As always YMMV.


    To be continued...........
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    New U.S. Optics 1-4x

    Update:

    SR4c RDS was right of center at 3-4x. Sent back to USO for test replacement. Was surprised that it got through QC with almost .75-1 mil right of center. We noticed the offset RDS few days after receiving the optic. Wondering if it would have continued to "walk" right after more firing. Replacement arrived, will run next to old faithful S&B CQB 1.1-4 for evaluation.

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    this scope is available for sale now and MSRP is $1995. I am sure you will see some dealers selling it for a little less. I've seen this scope and it is awesome, very bright red dot and the weight is not an issue to me. I use the SR8C and love it, perfect scope for my AR15s

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    Update:

    Low light to night shoot. Noticed the light transmission on the USO was a few shades darker than the S&B Short Dot. Noticed this during sunset and at night on illuminated targets from a distance of 25-250 yards. Wondering what lens coating USO is using since the difference is pretty significant. I'm not a light transmission expert, but to the naked eye it seems a 20-25% darker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l8apex View Post
    Update:

    Low light to night shoot. Noticed the light transmission on the USO was a few shades darker than the S&B Short Dot. Noticed this during sunset and at night on illuminated targets from a distance of 25-250 yards. Wondering what lens coating USO is using since the difference is pretty significant. I'm not a light transmission expert, but to the naked eye it seems a 20-25% darker.
    How does it compare to the acog at night? Is the eye box as forgiving as the z6i / khales? Very disappointed to hear about poor low light performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l8apex View Post
    Update:

    Low light to night shoot. Noticed the light transmission on the USO was a few shades darker than the S&B Short Dot. Noticed this during sunset and at night on illuminated targets from a distance of 25-250 yards. Wondering what lens coating USO is using since the difference is pretty significant. I'm not a light transmission expert, but to the naked eye it seems a 20-25% darker.
    With USO's stated battery longevity, perhaps they went with a lower powered LED emitter that produces less light and power, and therefore required a more reflective surface?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    How does it compare to the acog at night? Is the eye box as forgiving as the z6i / khales? Very disappointed to hear about poor low light performance.
    ACOG TA11 / TA44SG is clearer / brighter. Never had glass time on a Khales, however the Z6i is more forgiving.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder View Post
    With USO's stated battery longevity, perhaps they went with a lower powered LED emitter that produces less light and power, and therefore required a more reflective surface?
    It could be, but I'm not schooled in that area to know for sure.

    Update:

    Full Moon Shoot 2100-0230.
    Conditions: Clear / 56F / Headwind 1-5mph / Crap Load of Dust
    Other Optics Present: TA-11, S&B Short Dot, Leupold 2.5-10, Aimpoint T-1
    Rifles: Colt 6920s, LWRC M6A2s, Noveske Recon, REPR
    Range: 100-300

    Trijicon TA-11, S&B, & Leupy all brighter by a good 20% [WAG estimate]. SR4c glass is still good and clear from edge to edge. Just not as bright as I'd like it to be. On 1x with both eyes open it is noticeable that the peripheral surroundings vs. the information that your eye is picking up through the optic is not the same shade in both low light & illuminated light. The reticle works and is simple enough to quickly figure out holds [I don't dial]. RDS received works perfect and does not increase in size as it resides in the SFP. Probably my last update on this optic as it is going back to USO. I had high hopes for this optic and it does a lot of things very well i.e. 8000 hour projected battery life, SFP RDS, capped turrets, Mil/Mil adjustment etc. The light transmission overshadows all of the positives on this optic and that may sound harsh, but this is shared for those that aren't able to look through other optics to compare. That might not mean much to some that will do just fine with the SR4c light transmission, however my reason for a variable optic on a carbine is to PID targets thus clarity & brightness is at the top of my list. YMMV.
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    Any updates after receiving the scope back?

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    Very good write up and thank you for being candid with your assessment l8apex.
    Originally Posted by Iraqgunz
    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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