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    On Midway's site it is claimed that 609 will fill in up to a .005" gap and 620 up to .015" gap. If the fit is tight there is no gap to fill.
    A new barrel nut will not eliminate the slop between extension and receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    Try putting the carbine upper on the rifle lower and shoot another group. Sometimes the difference in stockweld (cheek contact with the stock) between the rifle and carbine stocks can have an effect on accuracy, especially when using optics. Consistent placement of the eye behind the scope is very important when shooting groups.
    Thanks for the suggestion. Will do (along with 10 shots per).

    Quote Originally Posted by porider View Post
    In reading the entire thread did I miss if you reused the old barrel nut or got a new one for the DD barrel? Barrel nuts are like crush washers use it once and do not reuse again.
    I did not know this. Thanks! It's actually a different barrel nut. The old rifle had old-school handguards on it, and this one has LaRue free-float rails. I have emailed LaRue to ask about reusage of this nut and will update with their answer as soon as I have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by mpom View Post
    On Midway's site it is claimed that 609 will fill in up to a .005" gap and 620 up to .015" gap. If the fit is tight there is no gap to fill.
    A new barrel nut will not eliminate the slop between extension and receiver.
    From watching videos of barrel installations, it looks like there should be a tighter fit than what I have between barrel extension and receiver. I'm hoping a new upper will fix this. Would like to avoid putting anything but moly-grease in there, but I will definitely keep this in mind. Thanks.


    I need to take a couple weeks to get moved across the country and will update with new information as soon as I get it. I really appreciate all the help and advice here. It's worth a million dollars.
    To-do:
    * update with LaRue's answer about reusing the barrel nut on LT15-7
    * update with any notes about felt differences re fit between DPMS upper vs BCM upper with DD barrel
    * replace upper with BCM and re-try with 10 shot groups without muzzle device
    * swap upper group to rifle's lower and make some more 10 shot groups; compare.

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    From Dan at LaRue: "As long as the barrel nut is not damaged, you can re-use it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KF5MLT View Post
    From Dan at LaRue: "As long as the barrel nut is not damaged, you can re-use it."

    Thank you for the research. I have been re-using barrel nuts for some time.
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    A pleasure.

    This only speaks for the barrel nut as packaged with the LT15 series of LaRue handguards. In quick further research, I found a few forum posts stating it was fine to reuse standard barrel nuts as long as the threads aren't damaged and it has enough teeth to torque it to spec.

    Varminting or target ARs may well have different expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KF5MLT View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. Will do (along with 10 shots per).


    *SNIP* Would like to avoid putting anything but moly-grease in there...
    Good job for paring some of the advice to go full retard sprinkled about in this thread. Proper procedure is to replace the out of spec upper receiver with one that is in spec and use moly-grease when assembling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpom View Post
    On Midway's site it is claimed that 609 will fill in up to a .005" gap and 620 up to .015" gap. If the fit is tight there is no gap to fill.
    A new barrel nut will not eliminate the slop between extension and receiver.
    I've used green Loctite to install new bearing in the rod ends for the control surfaces of different aircraft, There's a big difference between how much gap they claim can be filled and how much gap it fills in actual use. A special primer is also used before applying the green Loctite. If there is a gap, the Loctite does nothing to hold the part in place. Green Loctite does help hold parts in place when there is a close slip fit or a press fit. Even with polished surfaces, there are peaks & valleys. You may not be able to see them without a microscope, but they are there. When the two parts or fitted together, they only make contact on the peaks. Using adhesive filles in the valleys increasing the grip.

    None of this is to suggest that green Loctite should be used when installing a barrel to an upper. It will make removing the barrel more difficult. Of course, this doesn't matter if you plan to get a new upper when swapping barrels

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    thanks for the info, never too proud or old to learn.
    sounds like green loctite is for a more or less permanent application, not a good choice for an ar barrel.

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    Thanks for all the help. The upper receiver was swapped out for one from BCM and that seems to have fixed everything up. (The SSA is the 77 gr. OTM variety.)

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    Yes, I would have gone nuts if I had to wait another week to get out and test this thing.

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    Glad swapping the receivers worked out for you, next time this should help you steer away ==> D.P.M.S. = Don't Purchase Monkey Shit
    “The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - John Dean "Jeff" Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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