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Thread: Does your SHTF rifle have a red dot or magnified optics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe smith View Post
    Thanks. Maybe I just need more time behind the red dot. For me it orbits the front post like sputnik. Some have said my cheek weld isn't consistent. Perhaps. But personally, beyond the objections outlined earlier, I find I almost have tunnel vision with an optic, be it red dot or scope. Open sights I seem to maintain better situational awareness. I'm sure I could probably overcome most of the objectionable elements I've described with training, and I may. But for the moment, as it stands right now, they're irons.
    This might be a stupid question, but you're shooting with both eyes open, right? Also when you co-witness with a red dot, ignore the front sight post. If the red dot is moving in relation to the front sight post, it means your head or the rifle is moving. It won't move by itself regardless of how bad your eyes are.

    Quote Originally Posted by moe smith View Post
    Yeah, actually I wouldn't mind a 2.5-10. Do you have a suggestion for one with side focus, illuminated reticle for under 6.5 million? I think awhile back I was trying to get my hands on a Vortex to try it out but I couldn't find a brick and mortar retailer that had them, so that idea kind of got pushed aside. I don't recall if it had the other feature I've since decided to want included. Maybe I'll revisit that idea. Thanks.
    Vortex 2.5-10x32 has everything you want for about $800. I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    This might be a stupid question, but you're shooting with both eyes open, right?
    Yup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Also when you co-witness with a red dot, ignore the front sight post. If the red dot is moving in relation to the front sight post, it means your head or the rifle is moving. It won't move by itself regardless of how bad your eyes are.
    Yeah, that seems to be the consensus.



    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Vortex 2.5-10x32 has everything you want for about $800. I love it.
    Thanks. I thought it did but I wasn't sure. Now, to find a place that has them in stock! It's frustrating when you deal with store employees that look you in the eye and tell you they don't have illuminated scopes while they stand over a counter with 3 of them. They aren't at all motivated to see if they can find you the scope you want. Arrrrrrgh

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    Before you go spending money on optics, you need to realize that a RDS is more forgiving of inconsistent cheek weld/sight picture than magnified optics OR irons.

    Before you go with a conventional scope, you need to correct your fundamentals or you're going to be wasting money. Scopes literally don't work if your head and eye isn't in the right place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw02 View Post
    Before you go spending money on optics, you need to realize that a RDS is more forgiving of inconsistent cheek weld/sight picture than magnified optics OR irons.
    I'm 58. I've never had a problem with scopes or irons. Red dots, different story. Don't know why.

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    Must be in your head. Work through it, its worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw02 View Post
    Must be in your head. Work through it, its worth it.
    For 500 bucks it better be.

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    You can pick up Aimpoint PRO for $360 if you shop around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    ...If the red dot is moving in relation to the front sight post, it means your head or the rifle is moving. It won't move by itself regardless of how bad your eyes are...
    It will if your eyeballs are bouncing around in your head. This can happen due to a medical condition. I've had it happen to me- not enough sleep, not eating right. There are other conditions that can bring it about.

    If I'm co-witnessing my dot through my sights, the front sight automatically becomes part of the sight picture. The front sight now has a glowing red dot on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveS View Post
    I have a feeling guns will be confiscated long before SHTF happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by JustG45 View Post
    Shit will hit the fan when they try to confiscate...
    Yeah -- a confiscation attempt is the very essence of SHTF.

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    I run a T-1 and BUIS with a tritium front sight post.

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