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Thread: Is the Battlecomp dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Love the CNN-like title of this thread.
    That may or may not have been intentional >.>
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    Personally I find that BC lets me double and triple tap targets quicker, and I don't find that a bad thing at all. Regarding it being loud, I'm pretty aware guns are loud in general, I'm good with that as well. On the idea that it has muzzle flash, shucks, I guess I figured that out when it wasn't classed as a flash suppressor.
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    This is my personal opinion...

    I've used the BC, TTT, MB556K, AAC Breakout, FSC556, Rainier comp...

    Out of all of those, the TTT performed the best for me and my shooting style. I will not use it on a SBR because the concussion is way too much. 16" barrels and up are pretty much the cats meow.

    I have moved away from the comps and went back to the A2 FH. For my current needs/wants, it works out the best for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by brianc142 View Post
    I love KAC products but for $400 plus the TTT should be hands down better than anything out there.

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    LOL at the sheeple posting the comments on his page. It's like reading comments from Huff or CNN. Holy cow, if anything this dude just proved a point - that his little bar graphs can sway the minds of the simple. I'm sorry, some of those "findings" of his, simply do not match my personal, repeated experience with some of those products. No matter how scientific his tests appear to be, my body, eyes and ears have told me different.
    I have no brand loyalty when it comes to MDs. I've dumped one for another after a single range session numerous times and thrown them up for sale.

    Good post Robb, and actually, I have removed a BC from one of my rifles and replaced it with another brake because it behaved a little strange on that particular rifle/barrel length. Conversely, on two other rifles (different setups/barrel lengths) the BCs perform better than other brakes.

    Something smells fishy here - and it stinks.

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    You're correct that guns are loud. I don't think that's being debated. I made the comment from my experience while using the BC. To my ear, shooting out in the open and from cover or indoors, I find that the BC adds more noise.

    I guess the best way to describe it would be the crack of the rifle is more pronounced with the BC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    Personally I find that BC lets me double and triple tap targets quicker, and I don't find that a bad thing at all. Regarding it being loud, I'm pretty aware guns are loud in general, I'm good with that as well. On the idea that it has muzzle flash, shucks, I guess I figured that out when it wasn't classed as a flash suppressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjinks View Post
    You're correct that guns are loud. I don't think that's being debated. I made the comment from my experience while using the BC. To my ear, shooting out in the open and from cover or indoors, I find that the BC adds more noise.

    I guess the best way to describe it would be the crack of the rifle is more pronounced with the BC.
    Oddly enough, I made my comment from experience with the BC as well. I don't discount that it adds more noise, that is a byproduct of being a brake unless you are going with something like the KX3/ KX5 which is directing the sound forwards. My comments weren't directed at your or your post, sorry if it came across that way for some reason.
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    I think if anything this article points out that BC has been lagging behind in development and testing while other brake/comps have come to market. BC was first making these claims back when they WERE the best in the game and one of the only tactical comps on the market, they just haven't done much since then so that now they appear to be dishonest.

    I'm surprised to see that the A2 tested as more effective than the BC. I had an A2 on my 16" midlength for a long time before I got a BC, and I was pleased enough with the BC to change to it. In my experience, the BC provided better muzzle control (in MY experience, in MY gun), and the recoil impulse was different, but not necessarily "better". I was not concerned with muzzle flash at all, and I'm still not. I wanted a comp that got me back on target faster, all other benefits were secondary.

    As a whole, comparison tests help everyone and drive innovation and product improvement. I don't see much use in attacking BC over any other company on that graph.
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    Curious to see if an explosion of BC's appear on the Equipment Exchange due to this thread.
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    Last upper I built for a guy who had shoulder issues so I was really trying to limit weight and recoil. Used a 16" light weight, mid length gas system. I tested with an A2 a BC 1.0 and a BCM Mod 0. The gun being so light I figured that any negative qualities of any of these would be greatly exaggerated vs. on a heavy gun. The BC 1.0 exhibited the downward push(there was basically zero muzzle rise), but felt recoil was very minimal. The A2 was as expected, decent, but nothing to write home about, had the most felt recoil. The BCM Mod 0 had no downward push although it kept muzzle rise to an absolute minimum(kept front sight inside the 8x8 target at 50 yards), and the felt recoil was also basically non existent. On this ultra light gun, the BCM won. On a heavier gun the BC 1.0 might be the winner. I like keeping several muzzle devices around to test and see which one works best on which upper. I like my 51t Brakeout on my 10.5" mostly cause it throws 3' of fire out each port and scares children in the next county.

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    No worries brother! No stick pokin here at all. Good values to all comments and questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    Oddly enough, I made my comment from experience with the BC as well. I don't discount that it adds more noise, that is a byproduct of being a brake unless you are going with something like the KX3/ KX5 which is directing the sound forwards. My comments weren't directed at your or your post, sorry if it came across that way for some reason.

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