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    Quote Originally Posted by tim808 View Post
    ^^ I think he was referring to Psa & Spike

    On another subject, earlier post mentioned that Psa port > BCM port
    If in spec, would a larger port be "better" since it would still run with lower pressure ammo (ie 223 or wolf)?

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    Short answer, for carbine and rifle length gas systems, there is only one "spec" as defined by the TDP. Larger is not better because it causes over gassing of the gun which creates a host of other issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscenejesster View Post
    I don't think I'd trust the words of anyone telling someone else to steer clear of Centurion.

    This might be the most asinine statement I've heard on this forum all week.

    PS... I'm a BCM fanboy

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    When did I try to steer someone from Centurion barrels? I said I steer clear from PSA/Spikes. What on earth does my personal taste in barrels have anything to do with trying to get someone else to do what I do? IMO why would I spend money on a Centurion when I can get a BFH BCM barrel for the same price?... or a DD for less?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    Short answer, for carbine and rifle length gas systems, there is only one "spec" as defined by the TDP. Larger is not better because it causes over gassing of the gun which creates a host of other issues.
    This is why brand is especially important with middies. There is no standard, and companies have to go to great extent to get it right. BCM definitely has port wise.
    From TOS ... "buy the shit out of that thing, all the mil spec is just nonsense."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Agree on the overkill, however, as I understand it both BCM and PSA source their barrels from FN. So the rest of your statement only makes partial sense when you consider none of them actually manufacture barrels. I suppose the spec's "could be" radically different but for most uses an BCM FN barrel is likely equivalent to a PSA FN barrel. If not someone please correct me.
    Ah damn. Duck and cover friend, that's not gonna stand long. Purists and true believers inbound!

    I have 1-2 each CHF barrels from Spike's, PSA and BCM. I'm aware that FN is the manufacturer of each of these barrels, and that each manufacturer provides their own blueprint for the barrel, chamber, port size, throat, etc. to get the results they want. That said, the 16" rifles I have all shoot the same - less than 2 MOA with PMC X-Tac. I may not be a good enough shooter to see a differential, but for me, they're excellent, accurate barrels, and 100% reliable over hundreds of rounds, and I am happy to buy any of these barrels that pop up at a good price. I also have similarly excellent, identical results from 2 Daniel Defense CHF barrels as well. For me, there's not reason enough to be brand loyal between these brands, as long as FN made the CHF barrel.

    My SS410 barrel is not hammer-forged, and it's a tackdriver. If I didn't love pencil barrels so much, I'd get a lot more of the SS410 barrel. I'm interested in the ELW BHF barrels when they become available, as the unique continuous taper has benefits for harmonics and balance. I could see replacing Spike's and PSA pencil barrels with ELW BHF ones, when they're readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    When did I try to steer someone from Centurion barrels? I said I steer clear from PSA/Spikes. What on earth does my personal taste in barrels have anything to do with trying to get someone else to do what I do? IMO why would I spend money on a Centurion when I can get a BFH BCM barrel for the same price?... or a DD for less?
    You said it yourself. Because they're not the same.


    If someone wanted a CHF barrel with a tapered bore then they would buy the Centurion for the same price. :-)

    Lastly, you did say it. I quoted the post where you said it. Again, you said... "I steer clear of Spikes. Definitely steer clear of PSA and Centurion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscenejesster View Post
    You said it yourself. Because they're not the same.


    If someone wanted a CHF barrel with a tapered bore then they would buy the Centurion for the same price. :-)

    Lastly, you did say it. I quoted the post where you said it. Again, you said.... "I steer clear of Spikes.. Definitely steer clear of PSA and Centurion"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscenejesster View Post
    You said it yourself. Because they're not the same.


    If someone wanted a CHF barrel with a tapered bore then they would buy the Centurion for the same price. :-)

    Lastly, you did say it. I quoted the post where you said it. Again, you said... "I steer clear of Spikes. Definitely steer clear of PSA and Centurion".


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    Please re-read what I typed. I said I steer clear of spikes, definitely steer clear of PSA, and centurion, meh.

    The centurion Meh part, means it's meh for me, and I explained why. If your going to say someone said something, at least paste what they said and not write your own version. Rather than make assumptions, if your confused to why something was said, or don't quite understand how someone worded something just ask.

    Anyways, enough off topic. Doesn't need to get into a brand pissing match. Everyone has barrels they like or don't like. This discussion was supposed to be on the double chroming ordeal. I do admit, I myself helped get it off topic, but imo no use further nitpicking over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    Overkill. IMO the only company that makes sense with it is Noveske.
    I am genuinely curious what it is that Noveske is doing differently with these FN barrels that say for example Centurion Arms isn't doing? Again, just curious if I am missing something here, not trying to cast internet stones. How does Noveske's use of these FN CHF barrels differ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantrider View Post
    I am genuinely curious what it is that Noveske is doing differently with these FN barrels that say for example Centurion Arms isn't doing? Again, just curious if I am missing something here, not trying to cast internet stones. How does Noveske's use of these FN CHF barrels differ?
    Noveske was the first manufacturer in the market to offer a CHF barrel and at the time, they were very different from anything else that was available.

    Today, there are several manufacturers sourcing barrels from FN. What separates them is how they are spec'd and what acceptance criteria are required by each manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom12.7 View Post
    That's bad news then, they were available unfinished. Maybe the situation has changed now? There are a lot of these barrels in circulation in the USA now.
    Quote Originally Posted by StevieJ309 View Post
    KAC appears to have been using Colt Canada barrels at some point as it's been confirmed by KevinB: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...722#post731722

    I suppose it's possible that things have changed and KAC no longer sources barrels from them.
    I was thinking of completed barrels. I didn't think about them bringing in blanks and completing them stateside
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