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    @OP...All the FN barrels are going to be good whether you get them from PSA or Noveske. All of them will last for at least 30,000 rounds and accuracy wise, they will all shoot less than 2 MOA out to nearly 300 yards.

    Some FN barrels are nicer than others in terms of quality control and spec. The difference in price also comes from what the barrel reseller is demanding from FN in terms of rifling tolerance. Lastly, the gas port size will obviously be different depending on which FN barrel you get.

    The FN barrels I know of come from:

    PSA
    Spikes
    Noveske
    Centurion
    Rainier

    Personally, I'd spend my money on the Rainier, Noveske and Centurion. All three of these are as nice or nicer than any other CHF barrel available on the AR market. You can't go wrong with anyone of them.

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    OP, I bought a double chromed centurion barrel and I'll share what I believe are the facts the way I understood the info given to me.

    2x chrome does not necessarily increase barrel life.
    FNs chrome plating process(maybe the raw steel before plating?) seems pretty consistent lending to better accuracy than some other barrel brands.
    CHF does not make a barrel more accurate, it allows barrels to generally maintain accuracy at higher heats - so a regular barrel may start opening up after a mag or 2, a chf will start opening after 4 at the same rate(this is an example - don't take these numbers as a true representation of anything, I havnt done tests... just sharing what I've read.)
    The taper profile of centurion bore is supposed to aid accuracy (don't know if other FN barrels have tapered bores)
    Different manufacturers specify different specs and tolerances, which is why some FN barrels cost more than others.

    Noveske and Centurion barrels are very good. Due to the tolerances mentioned above, I'd take a DD CHF, BCM CHF (or regular barrel of both brands), or colt barrel before a spikes or psa FN barrel. But I'd take an spikes/psa over any other mid-grade ar(bushmaster/rra/etc).

    Basically, the FNs are good barrels, but a lot of the quality depends on the end finisher, and the double chrome and SAW barrel steel are not anything magical, at the end of the day a good barrel is a good barrel and I'd stick with a basic barrel from a known reputable company over a special barrel from a not-as reputable company.

    The difference between CL and SS barrels is actually pretty small. SS is way more durable than most people seem to think, and CL is more accurate than people think, CL will generally get you just above 1moa with reloads, SS will get you about .75 with reloads (and a good bbl). There are outliers to both but that's where most of them seem to fall from what I've seen here.
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    FN: Hello, can we help you?
    Buyer: Yes, I would like to order some barrels.
    FN: Great, please send over your drawings for the barrel.
    Buyer: Will do.


    The point of the above convo was to illustrate that the BUYER controls everything about the barrel (right down to the GP size). I will have to check and see if FN does HPT and MPI in house (not sure on this). My guess is that they do not.

    So the question you have to ask yourself is which of the many companies listed do you want designing your barrel?


    Choose wisely.



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    Wow I thought KAC forged their own bbls

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet432 View Post
    Wow I thought KAC forged their own bbls
    Barrels are one of the few things they outsource. But then again, most manufacturers do the same.

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    True.

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    All this "Magic Bean" stuff with who has their brand stamped on an F.N CHF barrel is pretty funny. I always read about how "Mid length gas" is really no better than "Carbine length gas" in defense of the "TDP" and Colt as the "gold standard". But when it comes down to a barrel with the same gas system and materials, suddenly if a BCM BFH barrel is running a .068 gas port it is a huge deal and obviously the guys at P.S.A are idiots that market lowgrade crap because the CHF barrels they get from F.N have .073 gasports.

    Does anybody here really believe that companies call F.N and tell them " hey we want a really cheap barrel from you.. yea yea never mind your minimum standards that you have as a premium barrel manufacturer, we are good with -/+ .020 off-center gas ports and the threads dont have to be concentric to the bore, Oh and what are your tolerances for your chamber specs? -/+ .0002?!?! hmmm ya forget that and open ours up to -/+ .002, and dont worry we wont tell anybody that you make barrels for us, our little secret. It doesnt happen, F.N would not lower their minimum standards for anybody and F.N's minimum standards make for a really good barrel. The people that tell you this happens are (A) selling you something or (B) Rabid brand loyalists.

    I have two P.S.A CHF barrels and they both are 1 to 1.5 MOA shooters with certain ammo, that is great for any barrel made for durability. I have a W.O.A barrel that shoots .7's with the right ammo. I have a Rainier select that is also sub MOA. These barrels have cost me anywhere from $230 to $310, they all shoot great and they all have different specs. Far more different than what you will find between F.N made CHF barrels sold by different Branders and guess what? none of them suck!!.

    I'll bet the F.N barrels that BCM is secretly speccing out are tack drivers too, not because of some secret BCM mojo but because they are F.N made barrels. There is nothing wrong with preferring a Noveske or a DD to all other CHF barrels, your money , your choice , be happy. If your barrel does its job , why shit all over another brand you would never consider owning anyway?

    Why this asinine crap about secret Ju Ju from certain manufacturers? Spikes and P.S.A CHF barrels from F.N are PROVEN barrels with thousands of very happy customers and that has no bearing on the quality of BCM or Noveske or Centurion barrels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quaesitor logica View Post
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    Does anybody here really believe that companies call F.N and tell them " hey we want a really cheap barrel from you..
    #1, no one is shitting on psa/spikes. B, I've never seen a really cheap FN barrel. And D, if you think the price difference that does exist is due to the stamp, I don't know what to tell ya.

    Number, 5, yes company A calls company B and orders a part with the specs that they can get at the price they need. That's how I've always seen business conducted, but maybe the barrel industry is different from other steel industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    #1, no one is shitting on psa/spikes. B, I've never seen a really cheap FN barrel. And D, if you think the price difference that does exist is due to the stamp, I don't know what to tell ya.

    Number, 5, yes company A calls company B and orders a part with the specs that they can get at the price they need. That's how I've always seen business conducted, but maybe the barrel industry is different from other steel industries.
    #1 Yes , there are posts here directly shitting on Spikes and PSA---- B-- I have bought 2 P.S.A barrels for $230, thats relatively cheap. D# I never stated it was just a stamp or even mentioned a price difference----- Number 5 No company gets poor quality barrels from F.N as has been acknowledged by many.


    I completely understand how a brand commands a higher price tag, I never mentioned price as an issue, Its not just the stamp, its the rep that comes with the stamp. I also understand that more stringent tolerances demanded by a customer is going to raise the price of a barrel but if those more stringent tolerances dont manifest themselves as a tangibly better performing barrel. Then it comes down to marketing and brand preference.


    Back to the O.P question though. In all likelihood you will not see a difference in barrel performance from double line chrome. Unless of course your going to be multiple mag dumping frequently and frankly if you can afford to that, you should have no problem securing another barrel
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