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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    Another reason why I believe the 1/7 is the better twist, is the fact that it shoots not just heavy mag lenth loads....but the real .223 LR projectiles like the 80gr. smks, 80gr/90gr. Berger VLDs, and several others that are extensively used in .223 bolts.

    Might not be very popular, but folks like myself who are distance junkies take advantage of having the perfect twist rate for shooting the vastly superior LR projectiles. I'm sure the 1/8 would shoot them fine, however those bullets were designed to be best used w/ 1/7 barrels.

    over 80 grains, especially "match" 90's ARE NOT for 1x7 AR's. Need a match built rifle with quicker 1x6.5 barrel. ALSO, my 1x8 handles match 80's fine and my favorite; 79 grain DRT rounds. No brag just fact, don't talk to me talk to the manufacturer ie; Sierra et. al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    Another reason why I believe the 1/7 is the better twist, is the fact that it shoots not just heavy mag lenth loads....but the real .223 LR projectiles like the 80gr. smks, 80gr/90gr. Berger VLDs, and several others that are extensively used in .223 bolts.

    Might not be very popular, but folks like myself who are distance junkies take advantage of having the perfect twist rate for shooting the vastly superior LR projectiles. I'm sure the 1/8 would shoot them fine, however those bullets were designed to be best used w/ 1/7 barrels.

    You are right about the 1/7 and more and more loads nowadays, as far as being for 1/7 ONLY. Pockmarking a target over 600 yards is alot, credit where credit is due man. Peace out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Do yourself a favor. Type coherent and rational sentences or look for another place.
    Please answer me this sir, if you were going out the door into tropical jungle, desert, and urban areas in both with full knowledge of contact in all settings, what would your choice of rifle and handgun be (ammo supply guaranteed)? Also what would you assign the designated marksman for carry.

    Just the proliferation of ammo cartridges blows me away since my time, rifles and pistols of all sorts as well. I'm saying it is a respectful question, as well as most likely a learning situation for me. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COONDOG View Post
    You are right about the 1/7 and more and more loads nowadays, as far as being for 1/7 ONLY. Pockmarking a target over 600 yards is alot, credit where credit is due man. Peace out!
    600 yards? Isn't that where the USMC used to qualify? 600 yards should be in the range of any rifleman. I watched a guy over the weekend smack 1100 yard targets with his 24" .223 Rem. bolt gun. Should be really easy with that data presented in the video. It is quite the wind-bucker


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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw02 View Post
    600 yards? Isn't that where the USMC used to qualify? 600 yards should be in the range of any rifleman. I watched a guy over the weekend smack 1100 yard targets with his 24" .223 Rem. bolt gun.
    Shoot! We took the T&E 14.5 KMR ELW upper and were hitting 1050 yards with mk 262 and 16.0 mils of come up.

    With a Rem 700, it's just cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COONDOG View Post
    Please answer me this sir, if you were going out the door into tropical jungle, desert, and urban areas in both with full knowledge of contact in all settings, what would your choice of rifle and handgun be (ammo supply guaranteed)? Also what would you assign the designated marksman for carry.

    Just the proliferation of ammo cartridges blows me away since my time, rifles and pistols of all sorts as well. I'm saying it is a respectful question, as well as most likely a learning situation for me. Thank you.
    You didn't ask me, but I'd take a 5.56 16" AR with a mini suppressor and 1-6 optic. It can really do everything from 0 to 500m. Further than that and you sacrifice terminal effects, but rounds on target are possible to 1000m+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    You didn't ask me, but I'd take a 5.56 16" AR with a mini suppressor and 1-6 optic. It can really do everything from 0 to 500m. Further than that and you sacrifice terminal effects, but rounds on target are possible to 1000m+.
    Agreed. We throttle steel every weekend like that with set ups in that vein. 4x ACOGs mostly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw02 View Post
    600 yards? Isn't that where the USMC used to qualify? 600 yards should be in the range of any rifleman. I watched a guy over the weekend smack 1100 yard targets with his 24" .223 Rem. bolt gun. Should be really easy with that data presented in the video. It is quite the wind-bucker
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    Marines have and still do qualify at 500 yards, and that's the easy portion of the course. If you can't hit the 40x20" target at 500 yards with an M16A4 and iron sights while laying prone in the nice grass, good luck hitting the 12" circle at 300 yards while you're sitting in the rocks. (I speak from OCONUS experience. Last I heard they had concrete and covered shooting positions on the KD course at Quantico. Pussies.)
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    Exactly my point. A video of a guy single feeding match ammo into a rifle with a 20x scope shooting an IDPA target from the prone on a calm day isn't anything to be in awe of.


    I see guys that miss the 300 yard shots with precision bolt actions with 25x scopes. But it's because you're run it around, stress of the timer, and shooting off unstable platforms, barricades, etc. The 1000 yard shot from prone becomes easy after you shoot some PRS matches.


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    Good points. I've become too prone dependent, I must admit.
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