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Thread: Vltor A5 - Still a must have?

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    The rifle I use for classes has an A5 in it. I just put it in about a month ago and have yet to run it in a class. I have taken it to the range twice already and put about 200 rounds down range each time. On a 16" BCM middy, it's a slight improvement over an H buffer with a standard spring. It just feels like the rifle is running smoother. I tested 40 rounds of Tula spread out over 4 mags and each time, it failed to lock the bolt back. It ran flawless with M855 which is what this rifle seen 90% of the time.

    That being said, I am a big SHTF guy and I will not be running one on my main SHTF rifle. Instead, I use a H buffer with a Blue Sprinco Spring on a 16" mid. I don't like relying on unique parts and want a set up hat will run even the weakest ammo reliably.

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    Couldn't you just switch it to a lighter buffer?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    I would like Magpul to come out with an extended length CTR to fit the 7position A5 RE like the STR, ACS and E-mod do.
    I thought that they all fit, the CTR just can't be adjusted all the way in to shortest LOP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Stormin_ View Post
    I thought that they all fit, the CTR just can't be adjusted all the way in to shortest LOP?
    Yes. Both my standard-length iMod stock and Magpul CTR work great, just leaves a gap between stock and endplate when fully collapsed. Cosmetic issue only. I never use the rifle with stock fully collapsed anyway.

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    I have put thousands of rounds of Tula and wolf ammo through two Noveske mid length 16" AR's over the years wothout issue. I ran the standard buffer the A5 kit comes with. I have used pmags with tens of thousands of rounds through them from 2004 which have somehow not worn out either yet.

    So far I am sold on the A5 system. I would experiment with different weight buffers on a gun that doesn't reliably work right with the system until I found a buffer that works consistently.

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    I use the A5 on the majority of my new builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by og556 View Post
    I have put thousands of rounds of Tula and wolf ammo through two Noveske mid length 16" AR's over the years wothout issue. I ran the standard buffer the A5 kit comes with. I have used pmags with tens of thousands of rounds through them from 2004 which have somehow not worn out either yet.

    So far I am sold on the A5 system. I would experiment with different weight buffers on a gun that doesn't reliably work right with the system until I found a buffer that works consistently.
    Yeah, you'll find that Noveske and Daniel Defense 16" and even 14.5" mid lengths will typically run fine with the a5 in most cases, regardless of ammo, while BCM's mid lengths might be a little more picky due to smaller gas ports.

    One of the reasons I like the Colt 14.5" is that it's reliable with any ammo but the a5 helps it feel more like a mid length. I really like the BCM. 14.5" mod length and will eventually buy another, but I don't like pinning my flash hider if I don't have to, and right now I only have one SBR'd lower. Since I use it for work and it typically has a 9" 300blk attached to it, I don't want to give up the benefits of the a5 to occasionally use a 14.5" mid length for a less important.

    Eventually I'll SBR another lower or my next BCM mid length will have a pinned flash hider.

    I don't necessarily consider failure to lock back an issue as long as it does lock back with 5.56 and defensive/duty ammo. Going with the lightest a5 buffer should allow the BCM mod lengths to run fine, and you'll still get the benefit of a rifle action over a carbine action. But if it doesn't inspire confidence, then like I chose to do with my BCM 14.5", I'd run an H buffer in a carbine RE.

    For most everything else, including most other mid lengths, I see the a5 as an enhancement for reliability. It makes the cyclic rate more consistent from shot to shot, more consistent with differnt ammo and suppressors, and you gain a little dwell time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post

    For most everything else, including most other mid lengths, I see the a5 as an enhancement for reliability. It makes the cyclic rate more consistent from shot to shot, more consistent with differnt ammo and suppressors, and you gain a little dwell time.
    The DD 16" Middy units run really smoothly with the A5, without any change to the reliability. That upper with my A5 lower has become my favorite rifle, even though it's one of my cheapest, I shoot just as accurately with that as far more precise barrels, just because that's already become my favorite rifle to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by og556 View Post
    I have put thousands of rounds of Tula and wolf ammo through two Noveske mid length 16" AR's over the years wothout issue. I ran the standard buffer the A5 kit comes with. I have used pmags with tens of thousands of rounds through them from 2004 which have somehow not worn out either yet.

    So far I am sold on the A5 system. I would experiment with different weight buffers on a gun that doesn't reliably work right with the system until I found a buffer that works consistently.
    Just because you can cycle Tula on your Noveske with an A5 doesn't mean I can do the same with my BCM.

    Lastly, it cycles fine with 556 which is all I care about with that particular rifle. Personally, I think if my buffer is light enough to cycle Tula, then it's to light for a rifle that's primarily used to shoot 556.

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    So, because of the smaller gas port on the BCM upper I purchased I may need to buy a few of the Vltor buffers to find the one that works with my system.

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