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Thread: Leave as is or buy a BCM GUNFIGHTER Ambidextrous Charging Handle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Oh man, you guys are influencing me. The more I read about the Raptor, the more I want one.

    Without, I hope, not sounding like a blowhard, I have the discretionary income to afford pretty much anything I want, but I'm kinda of a cheap bastard at times...

    I have a FDE Magpul configuration LE6920 that I've loaded up with all sorts of goodies and wanted to keep my KISS LE6920 fairly unadorned.

    That said, about the only thing I want on it is: A better trigger (ALG ACT or a Geissele G2S) and the slimmer B5 Keymod handguards. Now, dammit, I may buy the Raptor Ambi C.H. or not...I haven't decided yet, but yeah, I'm leaning...
    Read this thread and watch the video in the first post.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...harging-Handle
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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    Neither

    Get a Raptor.
    pricey, but worth it.

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    Another vote for the Raptor. I have both the BCM ambi and the Raptor. while I do not have the time on the BCM CH, it is a little wider than the Raptor. The raptor is the more crisp and compact feeling of any charging handle. Never has it gotten in the way or snagged on anything. I run T1's and a PST 1x4 on my ar's. If you have bigger hands(fingers) you may want to try the BCM out first, its not like you can't sell it fast. Although I feel the Raptor is the better option. I do not have huge hands and have shot with gloves on with no trouble what so ever.

    I am a left handed shooter also, so an ambi is a must for me.

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    The Raptor is a good handle but I am just as happy with my Ambi MOD 44. All of my ARs have them. I think standard charging handles should go the way of the Dodo bird. I have seen so many broken USGI handles its not funny.



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    I have "upgraded" the the BCM and after using it for a year or so I am convinved it was a waste of money. The edges are machined sharper then a standard CH, I guess so it will "look" cool...but I prefer the rounded edges of the stock CH. Also, after using it with a suppressor, I see no benefiet, I ended up having to RTV the gap between the handle and the reciever anyway. I know the M4C gods wil fire lightning bolts at me for not being a BCM fanboy, I just dont see any reason at all to throw $50 at a problem that doesnt exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albatrossarmament View Post
    I have "upgraded" the the BCM and after using it for a year or so I am convinved it was a waste of money. The edges are machined sharper then a standard CH, I guess so it will "look" cool...but I prefer the rounded edges of the stock CH. Also, after using it with a suppressor, I see no benefiet, I ended up having to RTV the gap between the handle and the reciever anyway. I know the M4C gods wil fire lightning bolts at me for not being a BCM fanboy, I just dont see any reason at all to throw $50 at a problem that doesnt exist.
    Wow, I could not disagree more. The BCM is superior in every way. I actually believe it is one of the best affordable upgrades you can do to a carbine. And I don't know what is "sharp" on them, if you are talking about the serrations, the afford a much better grip especially when wearing gloves.

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    Until your roll pin breaks and you lose your charging handle latch. Tell you what. Send my your BCM handle and I'll send you two USGI ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by albatrossarmament View Post
    I have "upgraded" the the BCM and after using it for a year or so I am convinved it was a waste of money. The edges are machined sharper then a standard CH, I guess so it will "look" cool...but I prefer the rounded edges of the stock CH. Also, after using it with a suppressor, I see no benefiet, I ended up having to RTV the gap between the handle and the reciever anyway. I know the M4C gods wil fire lightning bolts at me for not being a BCM fanboy, I just dont see any reason at all to throw $50 at a problem that doesnt exist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by albatrossarmament View Post
    I have "upgraded" the the BCM and after using it for a year or so I am convinved it was a waste of money. The edges are machined sharper then a standard CH, I guess so it will "look" cool...but I prefer the rounded edges of the stock CH. Also, after using it with a suppressor, I see no benefiet, I ended up having to RTV the gap between the handle and the reciever anyway. I know the M4C gods wil fire lightning bolts at me for not being a BCM fanboy, I just dont see any reason at all to throw $50 at a problem that doesnt exist.
    ...except that it does exist. Not only are they less prone to failure as IG stated (roll pins can and do fail), but they are also easier to manipulate.

    Have you ever been up for 36 hours straight and found yourself laying in a ditch trying to correct double feed with wet, cold, gloved, muddy hands on the stock CH? It ****ing sucks. (This situation is why I will never own an upper without the forward assist either) The gunfighter not only reduces the probability of CH failure, but allows you to perform immediate/remedial action almost effortlessly and regardless of conditions you find yourself in.

    If your weapon goes from the safe to the zippered soft case to the carpeted range bench, back to the safe, then you are right. It probably is a waste of money. The worst case scenario for you is you pack up and go home a little bit early.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 03-07-14 at 08:51.
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    The BCM Ambi is the best CH they/VLTOR make. I've been using one for a few months, and it is loads better than a USGI charging handle, and still significantly better than the non-ambi Gunfighter CHs unless you're running a big scope. You'll quickly see how awkward some of the standard manipulations the AR can be once you adopt to having the option of charging from the right side.

    That said, the Raptor is still my favorite for all of the reasons I mention in the video linked above. It gives you more to grab with nothing to poke and pinch you when not wearing gloves and a chest rig. Both are equally well made- it's the Raptor's design that puts it atop my list.

    I have not used and do not understand all of the artsy billet CHs that have been hitting the market lately, though.
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    Rainier Arms Raptor is a no-brainer for me- even at full price. Kicking myself for not buying 2-3 at their grand opening when the price was low just to put away for future use. There's not a better CH out now and really don't see anything that would be an improvement coming out for the foreseeable future. Along with BAD ambi safety selectors, Raptors should be considered tops in their class universally.

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