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Thread: Colt AR-15 A4 or BCM 20 A4 Rifle?

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    I'd go Colt personally, but I am sure the BCM is just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckar15 View Post
    [...] Is the only difference the brand name and logo [...]?
    Were that the case, the Colt would be the more expensive, and by more than $75...

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    I would go with the BCM.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Yep. My unit was one of the last active duty Army Infantry units to switch to the M4. In fact we did the invasion of Iraq and a tour there in 05 with M16A4s. We did pretty damn well with them.

    Plus not all AOs in Iraq were urban. In 05 we were in east Iraq near the Iran border out in farm land. Lots of opportunities for long shots out there.
    When did your unit get M4's? I got to my unit in MAR of 08 and they still had A4's haha. Right before we deployed in JUN of 08 supply showed up with an LMTV full of BNIB M4's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endur View Post
    I would go with the BCM.



    When did your unit get M4's? I got to my unit in MAR of 08 and they still had A4's haha. Right before we deployed in JUN of 08 supply showed up with an LMTV full of BNIB M4's.
    When I got out in 06 only squad leaders and above had M4s. But from friends pictures of later deployments they had M4s. So probably switched right around the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcasey02 View Post
    Never seen one during my 5 years in the Marine Corps.
    When I was in Iraq in 07 and 09 Iraqi Army carried Colt A4s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spearpoint View Post
    Were that the case, the Colt would be the more expensive, and by more than $75...
    Then what are the differences?

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    Was at my LGS this weekend and played with a just arrived Colt A4, and the front sight is still not of the F-marked variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilgrim View Post
    Was at my LGS this weekend and played with a just arrived Colt A4, and the front sight is still not of the F-marked variety.
    That is odd, the A4 I got in late august has the F marked front sight base.

    The Colt is nice, but right now it would be insane to skip on the BCM deal. No reason to pay extra for the Pony like I did, unless you don't already own a Colt.
    Last edited by foxtrotx1; 11-16-14 at 17:17.

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    I believe Grant from G&R Tactical has the F marked fsb Colt's.

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    In posts on this forum and in others, Colt sometimes gets the nod because they own the TDP, but it seems to me that the AR15A4 deviates from MIL-SPEC enough (trigger group aside, but some F-marked FSBs and some not, lower receiver shelf, etc.) that you would seem to have to take it on faith that the TDP is followed for the rest -- and maybe only with respect to common parts and processes? Maybe that is too pessimistic, but it is hard to pin Colt down on these things and they certainly could have multiple lines. I wanted to get a Colt AR15A4 but the inconsistency with the FSB kind of bothers me. BCM seems like a popular alternative, but how close is BCM to the military version (again, trigger group aside) compared to Colt and has BCM been able to reverse engineer the TDP close enough to follow or improve upon the current TDP? I have seen older Bushmaster A2s that come close in some ways, but off in others (finish, BCGs, etc.) and not all of those things are apparent -- even from specs. And things like lot testing and inspection versus item testing and inspection seems like a bid area of difference. If my LGS had the F marked Colt, I would probably get it anyway, but does it really matter if I can get a BCM -- other than the Pony?

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