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Thread: Colt AR-15 A4 or BCM 20 A4 Rifle?

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    For practical use guns I prefer BCM, but I would only buy an A4 for the "cool factor" (I guess that's the term I would use, there's probably a better way to say what I mean) and to be used as a range gun. Due to these reasons I would buy the Colt. I'm not saying that the A4 is a bad rifle or that it's not at all practical, just that I believe that there are other better rifle setups to suit my needs but YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckar15 View Post
    I went with the 20" BCM.
    I bought one for the same reasons as you. BCM stripped 20 in upper with LMT BCG, MOE handguards (b/c i did put a scout mount+light on it), plus a shaved down AFG. Mated to an LMT Defender lower with Vltor A1-length fixed stock and H3 buffer.

    Runs like a clock and hits wherever it's aimed. but it is a little less convenient to get in and out of a car

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3SKILL View Post
    Really? Maybe you should conduct a seance and see if any one of the 1000's of bad guys that have been smoke checked by Marines just looking cool with the A4 the past 10+ years agrees with you.
    Yep. My unit was one of the last active duty Army Infantry units to switch to the M4. In fact we did the invasion of Iraq and a tour there in 05 with M16A4s. We did pretty damn well with them.

    Plus not all AOs in Iraq were urban. In 05 we were in east Iraq near the Iran border out in farm land. Lots of opportunities for long shots out there.
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    I have 3 16" midlength's as well as the 20" BCM. The 20" is a very smooth shooter and not really that heavy. I can definitely shoot it more accurately with iron's than my other uppers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Yeah. Because having that muzzle velocity and sight radius really sucks. I like my home built AR15A5 and would put it against any rifle out there.
    Yup. BCM A4 Upper, put the A5 Kit on the lower. If the velocity justification is there for the 20" rifle, this setup is unbeatable.
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    How did anyone ever hit anything without a FF rail in the past?
    Last edited by Sean W.; 03-26-14 at 03:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean W. View Post
    How did anyone ever hit anything without a FF rail in the past?
    They called for close air support or artillery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolvs View Post
    I would buy the BCM, and I did recently buy the BCM 20" upper assembly for a rifle build. Or wait for Colt to ship A4's with the correct FSB and post.
    Yea the issues being reported in the other thread put me off of the colt 20 for the time being. Seemed like they were shipping 3 versions. Correct f marked fsb, non f marked fsb with higher post, non f marked fsb with normal post. I expect better from them.

    I will say I have 2 of the bcm 20 inch uppers. One is on a lower from a local ffl(made my mega) and the other is pretty much a complete bcm rifle(has an armalite a2 stock on it as the bcm lower really only came in m4 config at the time). I really like them. I assembled those guns waiting for a colt a4. At this point the colt would have just been to have one and maybe I will in the future. If I was buying another 2 inch gun today though I'd go with the BCM. I expect it to come with the correct parts on it.

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    Has anyone shot the 20" with an F marked FSB? Or one with a non F marked FSB? Seems to me, the F marked FSBs were developed to work on M4 carbines with the detachable carry handle. Didn't ARs come with the non F marked FSBs prior to that and didn't they work? Since the 20" uses a longer sight radius, a shorter sight would be needed to get the same angle of departure as the shorter barrel carbine
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    Thought I would give my 2 cents. I love my BCM eag carbine but would take either one. And if y'all didn't know colt makes the M4s for the military but NOT the M16A4 those are produced by FN. Just in case if somebody didn't know that. But I personally would take my BCM over any other.

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