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Thread: That resilient bolt tail crud......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Some of the posters in this thread are doing more damage to their weapons than any bad will ever come from carbon on the bolt.
    Although I never try to estimate the possible stupidity of a gun owner.... I've scraped the carbon off of bolt tails for 20 plus year and have never done any metal damage. And I'm not nice about it at all. And like most here... I don't fanatically clean guns, but when I do, I clean it all.
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    A "classic" Swiss Army Knife will scrape the last remaining bits of carbon that a CAT-M4 tool won't touch. the CAT-M4 is for breaking off the big chunks- the SAK is the finisher. I have yet to see a CAT-M4 get a bolt tail into pristine condition. But there are other areas of the AR- such as the chamber- that are way, way more important than the bolt tail.

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    I'm lazy, If I'm feeling like the OP Once in while I take all the small parts and throw them in my reloading tumbler with some brass..and walnut media...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelingchild View Post
    I'm lazy, If I'm feeling like the OP Once in while I take all the small parts and throw them in my reloading tumbler with some brass..and walnut media...
    That'll polish your carbon and make it look good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly with you in all respects, but I never said anything contrary to that. My post (and the commander's intent I'm referring to) is not to be "lax" with gear and weapon maintenance. I'm only specifically referring to scrubbing weapon components with brass, stainless steel, and other mediums to achieve white glove levels of cleanliness. That type of mentality is detrimental to performance and costs units (and civilian shooters) more money in the long run.

    For those who like their weapons clean because that is what they learned at Parris Island, that's cool. I'm sure your Drill Instructor would be proud, but I don't stand with my feet at a 45* angle anymore and I actually use both hands to eat dinner.
    I guess my point is to provide proper advice for removing carbon from the bolt tail, if people have had success with good, non-harmful techniques, when that is what people are asking. It is a shame that the default reply often is "OMG! You clean your gun?! What a noob!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic1 View Post
    It is a shame that the default reply often is "OMG! You clean your gun?! What a noob!"

    If you get my drift....
    No doubt. You wash your car? It's not going to drive any better. There's just some things you do because you're not a sloth getting by on the minimum.

    And YES... I think we all have the understanding that proper lubrication is more important than cleaning.
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    For removal of carbon deposits like you describe, I like Slip2000 Carbon Killer.
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    I've never been able to get that Carbon Killer to work. I tried it twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Some of the posters in this thread are doing more damage to their weapons than any bad will ever come from carbon on the bolt.

    Our CO (he was a Mustang, which might have something to do with it) specifically told our armorers to stop wet Q tip inspecting weapons precisely because mentalities like the above are not conducive to long term reliability. Having a sparkling clean weapon is not the litmus test for being a highly trained soldier anymore thanks to commanders with common sense and NCOs who've spent enough time in the suck to know it is just a way to play games with Lance Corporals.

    I know you specifically said you didn't want people like me replying, OP. But oh well. This thread is full of tons of bad advice and doesn't belong on this forum.
    How do you figure?

    Besides, if someone has laid down their hard-earned bucks for a weapon (not Uncle Sam's) and chooses to keep it clean, what's the big deal? As long as it's done PROPERLY and not carelessly then they are being prudent with their investment. The wire wheel may be a bit much as a gas ring can be snagged in the process, plus I don't need a power tool to do the job. The Cat-M4 tool is great for removing gross amounts (I have one) but to totally get it carbon-free a little elbow grease is required with a green scratchy pad for example. The Cat-M4 also does not remove the finish.....if it takes off just the gross amounts it isn't shaving close enough to damage the finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    The Cat-M4 also does not remove the finish.....if it takes off just the gross amounts it isn't shaving close enough to damage the finish.
    I go way harder than that on my bolt tails when I do finally clean them. Finish gets more damage from the tail rubbing inside the carrier than i've ever done picking at the carbon. Christ... the bolt face has less finish on it from case heads slamming it than any finish wear on the tail.
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