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Thread: Best Drop in Rails... Troy? or MI?

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    While not as popular any longer I really like the Vltor CASV-el. A true drop in rail that free floats the bbl. The design ensures no rotation. Yes you need to remove the front sling swivel but that's a one minute exercise. Couple of things to remember when using however. The area for a buis will not be large enough for a magpul mbus but every other site I tried works fine. The height of the rail will not cowitness with an Eotech. Aimpoints will with the proper height mount.
    Last edited by Fuzzy-Reticle; 03-23-14 at 13:36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JG007 View Post
    It should be noted, all of these yellow journalism articles are flat out lying regarding the ruby ridge facts (it seemed like a big issue, and apparently im the only one that researched it). They are the equivalent of the naacp coverage of george zimmerman.

    Big example, and to show the articles dont care about facts or truth. The sniper did not "murder" or "execute" vicky weaver. What the sniper did do is take a shot at the suspect that had murdered the federal agent. Vicky Weaver was behind the door holding it open for him as he ran into the cabin. They didnt see her, and the shot was not intended for her, but it ended up hitting her.

    Im not saying the 'modified' rules of engagement were correct, that this wasnt a complete debacle, etc.....but when the blog authors intentionally lie to fabricate an emotional response (see Zimmerman), everybody come out looking bad


    Other FBI tactical units realized the rules of engagement were unlawful and followed standard protocol. We know Horiuchi and his bunch never lie, right. This same exact group was at the Branch Davidian compound and stated under oath they never fired their weapons. Texas Rangers collected 4 expended shell casings at Horiuchi's position. You go right ahead and keep drinking that kool-aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masakari View Post
    Yup, and like I said, the Delta rails rock. I'm sure the Charlie does as well.


    Truth. I'm as pro-gun and freedom as they come, but this faddish hatred against Troy is completely unwarranted and just plain wrong.
    Troy makes a great product and supports our rights.
    Then how do you explain away the hiring of vocal anti-gun politician/police superintendent Jody Weiss? Troy saw dollar signs with his connections and didn't care that he campaigned against the second Amendment. They only cared after they were caught because it affected their bottom line. Troy isn't Ford or Microsoft, the owner knew exactly what Weiss' background was when they hired him. If I could find it from a 10 second Google search they certainly knew after vetting his him. It's not like he was an unknown. I have come to learn that whenever someone prefaces a statement with "Im As Pro Gun as they come" they usually aren't, of course I don't look at it as "Pro Gun" and I question those who use that term. Instead I look at it as pro individual rights and pro Constitution. Troy rifles were not a "Great Product" as has been well documented on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightvisionary View Post
    Then how do you explain away the hiring of vocal anti-gun politician/police superintendent Jody Weiss? Troy saw dollar signs with his connections and didn't care that he campaigned against the second Amendment. They only cared after they were caught because it affected their bottom line. Troy isn't Ford or Microsoft, the owner knew exactly what Weiss' background was when they hired him. If I could find it from a 10 second Google search they certainly knew after vetting his him. It's not like he was an unknown. You are definitely not "As Pro Gun" as they come, of course I don't look at it as "Pro Gun" and I question those who use that term. Instead I look at it as pro individual rights and pro Constitution. Troy rifles were not a "Great Product" as has been well documented on this site.
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    That aside, I would go with MI. Their products have come a LONG way and they've constantly improved. Sure, they're not cutting edge but one of the few "lower" cost brands that makes decent products. The KAC RAS is also a solid product as are DD rails (although DD's are the most costly of these three). As far as Centurion goes, I think Monty makes top notch products. If you don't mind the extra step, you can't go wrong with Centurion.
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    I just picked up the MI / MCTAR-17G2 used..barely from ARF.com... and I have to tell you.. it's lighter than my Troy was.. It locks up very solid on my SW MP15. And the finish / color.. fits my rifle exactly..
    Paid $75.00 shipped... and it looks like new..
    Very happy with it..
    Thanks everyone for their input.. it has been very helpful..
    Being Ex military and a traditionalist.. I want to keep my Front sight post... so the MI is exactly what I was looking for..

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    Fuzzy.. I have the CASV-el... Loved it..wish I never sold it.. perhaps I try to find another one someday..

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    Question

    As far as the Centurion rails not being "drop-in" what all is invovled with their installation? Dremel off the delta ring, snap ring, and weld spring?
    Last edited by Moose-Knuckle; 03-26-14 at 19:08.
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    I've used both and like them both.

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    And cut off the handguard ring. It's quite simple. I followed the Centurion installation instructions. Took my time and didn't scratch my finish anywhere. Some folks pop the FSB pins but I didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    As far as the Centurion rails not being "drop-in" what all is invovled with their installation? Dremel off the delta ring, snap ring, and weld spring?

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    The milspec KAC quad rail will take a ton of abuse and never give in. My PEQ-15 retained zero no matter how many times I bashed it.

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