Scope vs. Red Dot (video drill)

**Obscenejesster** · 03-20-14, 23:27

I am currently in the market for a low powered variable and found this video to be relatively eye opening. Looks like a little practice with the scope can net some pretty quick kills at 10 yards on 3 power.

I had my mind set on a 1x4 but now I may be looking for some 2x7, 2x8, 2x10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YmI...e_gdata_player

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**cma g21** · 03-22-14, 14:24

I have to wonder how the scope shown in that video would have performed, compared to the red dot, in that same drill under low light conditions.

**Failure2Stop** · 03-22-14, 15:50

I've had to kill dudes inside enclosures with a 3-9x, and it sucks.
There is a reason that the folks that do these things professionally and frequently use 1x optics for the task,

In daylight, from conventional positions, in good conditions, I can make a 3-4x work o.k. Introduce lighting issues, head placement issues, moving targets, movement while shooting, and surgical speed requirement, and the mid power optics fall off rapidly. Add to that the weight, bulk, add relative fragility of mid power optics, and the scale further slides.

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**Scrubber3** · 03-22-14, 18:05

I got to the part where the one guy finished balancing the gun on a chair. I stopped watching at that point.. Anyone that wears pants like that and shoots a bushmaster and RRA to perform a "scope vs red dot" review shouldn't be taken seriously.

Edit: I agrees with F2S...

**titsonritz** · 03-22-14, 18:33

I can't watch that dude either.

**TexasGunNut** · 03-22-14, 19:39

Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

I've had to kill dudes inside enclosures with a 3-9x, and it sucks.
There is a reason that the folks that do these things professionally and frequently use 1x optics for the task,

In daylight, from conventional positions, in good conditions, I can make a 3-4x work o.k. Introduce lighting issues, head placement issues, moving targets, movement while shooting, and surgical speed requirement, and the mid power optics fall off rapidly. Add to that the weight, bulk, add relative fragility of mid power optics, and the scale further slides.

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+ 10. If you're deer hunting no harm no foul. For two way ranges, the scenarios F2S outlines and dangerous game the rules change.

**Animal_Mother556** · 03-23-14, 17:40

There are too many "data points" in that video for me. I made it to where he said "Tactical Doodle"....

**teutonicpolymer** · 03-30-14, 13:41

You can kind of do the Bindon Aiming Concept with a regular 3x scope but it is funky. Would definitely not be my first choice (unless someone gave me a Nightforce 2.5-10X then I would happily deal with it).