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    Quote Originally Posted by CoryCop25 View Post
    They have and will sue any company that copies them.
    LOL!!! Welcome to the world of international Knockoffs. Good luck suing companies in questionable countries.

    This ONLY applies in countries that honor ours and international patents. Same boat for all other parts. Do you really think most factories in China etc give a ratts... (because they know companies in the US can't do squat).

    Look at products like Apple, Samsung etc who are gazillion times larger than Ergo/Falcon that are always knocked off of. They can't even remotely keep a lid on the fake ordeal so do you really think a smaller gun company will?
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    I am not saying that there aren't copies, I am saying that this is why Magpul (a US company) markets Ergo ladder rails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    LOL!!! Welcome to the world of international Knockoffs. Good luck suing companies in questionable countries.

    This ONLY applies in countries that honor ours and international patents. Same boat for all other parts. Do you really think most factories in China etc give a ratts... (because they know companies in the US can't do squat).

    Look at products like Apple, Samsung etc who are gazillion times larger than Ergo/Falcon that are always knocked off of. They can't even remotely keep a lid on the fake ordeal so do you really think a smaller gun company will?
    The only reason that these companies that steal the intellectual property of American companies and succeed is because American consumers buy it.
    I can't believe how we can complain about the US economy out of one side of our mouths and then espouse Chinese Knock-Offs out of the other side.
    I have found the problem, and it is us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The only reason that these companies that steal the intellectual property of American companies and succeed is because American consumers buy it.
    I can't believe how we can complain about the US economy out of one side of our mouths and then espouse Chinese Knock-Offs out of the other side.
    I have found the problem, and it is us.
    I couldn't agree more.

    Americans are constantly feeding the issue by purchasing more and more chinese crap. The one and only chinese imitation I have no issue purchasing is ladder covers. I've picked enough up in all colors that I should never need to get any more down to road for any build. Reasoning for this is it has freed up money to pick up other stuff during the panic, like a boat load of Pmags and Brownells mags

    It is disturbing to see gunshows be absolutely flooded with everything chinese. You'd think something so American like a gun show would be different, but it's the opposite now. Fake everything, from barrels, to sights, to rails, heck, it's to the point the entire gun is knocked off now minus the receivers in some cases. I'm all for finding better deals on somethings that are obviously over priced like rail covers, but good grief there is a ton of crap flooding the market like the Raptors etc.

    I'm still a little puzzled to why MP is marking their covers up so much compared to Ergo. I wonder if Magpul can chime in about that.
    Last edited by discreet; 03-24-14 at 09:31.
    From TOS ... "buy the shit out of that thing, all the mil spec is just nonsense."

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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    I'm still a little puzzled to why MP is marking their covers up so much compared to Ergo. I wonder if Magpul can chime in about that.
    If MagPul is making them on their own, they will pay Ergo for licensing, as MagPul is an honorable and ethical company.
    However, I don't think that MagPul is producing them themselves, which means that they have to buy them from Ergo, have them shipped, inventory them, store them, insure them, repackage them, market them, sell them, pull them from inventory, and prepare them for shipping. Each step has a touch fee associated with it. Want Americans to earn more than $2 per hour? Then you're going to pay for it in the services you have performed and the products you buy.
    Either pay more for stuff that comes from here or send it all overseas, that's the reality of the marketplace.
    I could go on a significant diatribe on how we are destroying our own economy, but I will leave it with the concept that every time you send money to China, that money will never come back to the US.
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    OK. So there's been one post insulting me, one from a know if all who doesn't know what they're Talkings about one guess that provides no useful info at all, a long spew of personal opinion that does nothing to actually answer the question I asked, a plug for a brand I never mentioned, then another 8 posts that still don't even touch on an answer to my question. Does anyone here have anything useful to add here that might include actual knowledge about the question I asked and not just speculation or insults for even asking a question that I have legit reasons for wanting an answer to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbroberson21 View Post
    OK. So there's been one post insulting me, one from a know if all who doesn't know what they're Talkings about one guess that provides no useful info at all, a long spew of personal opinion that does nothing to actually answer the question I asked, a plug for a brand I never mentioned, then another 8 posts that still don't even touch on an answer to my question. Does anyone here have anything useful to add here that might include actual knowledge about the question I asked and not just speculation or insults for even asking a question that I have legit reasons for wanting an answer to?
    It's the nature of internet forums.

    Manufacturers go through design and material changes through the life of a product.
    Nobody except the manufacturer will know for certain why the difference between different lots.
    Your best source for that information would be Ergo and/or Magpul if you don't want folks to lend their opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbroberson21 View Post
    OK. So there's been one post insulting me, one from a know if all who doesn't know what they're Talkings about one guess that provides no useful info at all, a long spew of personal opinion that does nothing to actually answer the question I asked, a plug for a brand I never mentioned, then another 8 posts that still don't even touch on an answer to my question. Does anyone here have anything useful to add here that might include actual knowledge about the question I asked and not just speculation or insults for even asking a question that I have legit reasons for wanting an answer to?
    My authentic Magpul ladder covers came in clear plastic bags. My ergo covers, came in clear plastic bags My knockoff ladder covers came in guess what.... clear plastic bags.

    Point in this... buy from a reputable dealer and you won't have to ask these questions.

    Best not to ask opinions on stuff if your not willing to sort through them. The only place you will get a straight on answer to what you have being legit or not is to contact the mfg. No one on here will be able to say otherwise from pics or not as the generic ones I have were packed the same and look absolutely identical to the real thing.

    Basically what I was trying to do was nicely say who gives a ratts ass. If they work, fit tight, and feel good. Does it honestly matter in the end asides from the $ side of things? You have them now. Unless you got them from reputable store are you really going to take the time messaging mfg's, dealing with returns etc all just for some ladder rail covers? These aren't aimpoints, they are rubber covers.
    Last edited by discreet; 03-24-14 at 19:55.
    From TOS ... "buy the shit out of that thing, all the mil spec is just nonsense."

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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    Americans are constantly feeding the issue by purchasing more and more chinese crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discreet View Post
    The one and only chinese imitation I have no issue purchasing is ladder covers.
    Do you realize you're "feeding the issue"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hkbeltfed View Post
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    Do you realize you're "feeding the issue"?
    Yes, and for 6$ a gun I could give a hoot less. Not critical part. It's a strip of rubber. I'd rather use the money on Magazines. 6$ is a lot better than 50-60$. I turn around and buy 5 or so Pmags. You still think magpul is losing out then?
    Last edited by discreet; 03-24-14 at 20:26.
    From TOS ... "buy the shit out of that thing, all the mil spec is just nonsense."

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