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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I thought about that. But he wrote "I would never register anything." The words "never" and "anything" seem to break out of any context-specific application of his sentence and seem to transform it into a universal statement.

    Onyx Z made a good point, which is one that I'm also trying to make... what's the difference really between the NFA and the SAFE act in terms of registration and infringement? Yes it's Federal vs State, and yes the degrees of infringement are on an entirely different scale. But why would you be willing to register a firearm under the NFA but not under SAFE? Does it imply less trust of the State of New York than of the BATFE?
    The difference between the NFA and NY UN-SAFE is a matter of scope. You're not going to get the BATFE raiding homes in stalwart pro-gun states to seize lawfully registered Title II firearms anytime in the near future. You can't say that about CA, NY or CT state in regards to Title I firearms they don't like. The mass hysteria running rampant in libtard states like these (and DC, where you can get taken to jail for a single bullet), simply will not fly in the heartland, mountain states or deep south.

    Personally, I'd NEVER live anywhere that requires any form of gun registration. It's just too easy for them to go full retard and put a hurt on you. Do I have NFA items? Yes. In the event it gets THAT bad across the entire country, I'll have plenty of time to divest myself of them AND trade off all my 4473'd Title I firearms on the open market, for ones that aren't 4473'd to me.
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    I view my state as my Country.

    Get out from behind enemy lines, and don't register a goddamned thing. By registering, you're essentially asking for them to come knocking when, whatever tin-pot communist ****sucker decides he wants to set a precedent, and play round up.

    Tell them to choke, violently, on a sack of Richards.

    Down here in the Land of the Free, the pizza may not be that great, but we damned sure make up for it in BBQ.

    Plus we don't tax/bleed you dry.

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    On the other topic:

    4473 only tells the receiving end that a transfer has occurred, if even that much. States maintain a registration. In the state I live in, there is no such bird, and all the 4473 firearms I owned, sank in a horrendous boating accident a few years ago.

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    Just a quick note to anyone that says you will never register a weapon.

    Anyone who resides in NY and has a handgun has already registered a weapon. Every single handgun in NY must go on the owners permits. In some places it is a paper permit for each gun, in others it is a plastic card with a list of the guns. Either way, they are already registered, so why would registering an AR be a big deal? I am not in any way condoning ANY of NY's gun laws, just posing a question for those living in NY.

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    I'd rather go to jail than be seen with that stock.

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    Don't even bother to register. I'm questioning their ability to find the rifles and therir owners. Especially if they were purchased before the safe act.

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    Thanks for everyone's replies, I really appreciate it.

    As mentioned, all handguns have been registered in NY for as long as I can remember. We have to have a pistol permit just to own a pistol here in NY. I got pistol permit in '96 and then got it upgraded to a carry permit in '02. My permit looks like my drivers license but with all my pistols listed on the back, make, model, caliber, type (A= auto, R= revolver, O= other), serial number.

    Getting back to my AR's, I found out today that if I do register them, I can always remove the "assault weapon features" and then I can un-register them whenever I want. Still not sure what to do.

    We also don't think we'll even be in NY five years from now. My wife lived in Tucson from 3 to 13 then moved back here. I've lived here my whole life. I had a really good job, then I got hurt and now I'm disabled. Then the plant closed. My wife is an LPN and is going to get her RN. Once she's done we're more then likely going to leave NY. She wants Arizona, I want four seasons with snow because I plow and mow lawns, I let the machines do the work now. She says the Flagstaff area would be a great place for us to go.

    Thanks, NYH1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguila327 View Post
    Don't even bother to register. I'm questioning their ability to find the rifles and therir owners. Especially if they were purchased before the safe act.

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    This. From what I've seen non compliance is the norm. Cuomo passed this to look good for a presidential run. There is no way to enforce it. There are no resources in the state to enforce it. The police? Nope. Military? Nope. Unless I see UN helmets in the street I wouldnt worry. Its your gun and your choice. I believe you gotta make a stand at some point, keep bowing down to every order from the goverment just makes them try more things. It empowers them. My feelings, if your thinking about registering, then you fear them and thats not the right mindframe to be in.

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    WELCOME TO NORTH CAROLINA!!


    Seriously, I had no idea it was/could get this bad. Damn NY sucks. I won't even visit a state like that.

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    I'm of the opinion that NYers should spend our time figuring out where we all are that oppose the unSAFE act, or any assault on the 2nd Amendment, and plan on showing up in massive numbers to any sign that "they" are trying to confiscate.

    I can't see this going in any other direction other than a bad one and our only defense is going to be overwhelming numbers of like-minded Americans.

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    If you have more than one, I would probably register one and neuter the other. The problem with not registering the gun you like best is, you can't really use it unless you have a lot of your own land. Also, I'm not lawyer, but the text of the law seems to indicate that the feature rules don't apply at all to registered weapons. While I still fear confiscation, the point about handgun registration in NY is true. I hope I don't end up eating my words. This state sucks.

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