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    Coworker bought an Adam's Piston AR

    Friend of mine at work who I do some IDPA and steel shoots and he is wanting to get into 3 gun. He has an AK and I told him he would be better served with an AR for 3 gun. So he tell's me last week that he had got his AR and that it was an Adam's piston AR. I asked why he got a piston gun he said he had done the research and that it would be cleaner, more reliable and that it was what all gun designs were heading towards. I asked if he planned on running a SBR or supressed or planned to be in firefights of several thousand rounds fired at a time (NO to all 3). I told him that he gained more recoil, less accuracy and non standard parts with his piston gun. I asked him why he didn't ask me about the gun before he bought and he said he had done research. Told him that I carried an M16A2 for 7 years and I have owned a BCM and Daniel Defense AR for several years with lots of rounds down range without a single issue. I mentioned the military has been using DI for 40+ years after moving from a piston design in the M14.

    I know there has been lot's of discussion in the past on piston vs DI and don't want to beat a dead horse. I'm far from a SME on DI but do have years of exerience with the A2 and Ar's. Find it kind of frustrating when you feel like you could help somebody make a better choice before they spend $. So our 1st 3 gun when my DD runs 100% and IF his piston gun is problematic is it OK to say well I told you so....

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    I know exactly what you mean. I had a very similar situation but my friend asked me for my advice. I explained why I thought the piston was not what he needed and he went ahead and bought it anyways. Sometimes people just do what they want to do. And yes a I told you so will come out of my mouth when the opportunity presents itself.
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    I'd relate NCSTAR more to an incurable STD. Sure, you can get rid of the evidence that you ever owned it, but you will spend the rest of your life praying nobody finds out what you did (bought).

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    I have a number of friends should shoot Huldra in a variety of venues, including 3-gun. Huldra is an Adams Arms piston gun with some proprietary modifications. Great firearm, works well for 3-gun according to them.

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    Sometimes I think we get too wrapped up in what other people buy. Who cares if it has issues? I'm having some major issues with a DI gun right now from a well respected manufacturer that's been sent back for repair twice. If a piston owner told me at a 3-gun match "I told you so" I'd probably take a swing at 'em.
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    Our world would be pretty boring if everyone used the same things... I'm not a fan of a piston AR (save for the PWS) for anything, but if someone wants to rock one, let em. Some folks have to learn by doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Trooper05 View Post
    Sometimes I think we get too wrapped up in what other people buy. Who cares if it has issues? I'm having some major issues with a DI gun right now from a well respected manufacturer that's been sent back for repair twice. If a piston owner told me at a 3-gun match "I told you so" I'd probably take a swing at 'em.
    I'm not talking about giving some random person shit about the weapon not running I'm talking about busting a buddy's balls a little.
    Quote Originally Posted by aaron_c View Post
    I'd relate NCSTAR more to an incurable STD. Sure, you can get rid of the evidence that you ever owned it, but you will spend the rest of your life praying nobody finds out what you did (bought).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RearwardAssist View Post
    I'm not talking about giving some random person shit about the weapon not running I'm talking about busting a buddy's balls a little.
    As long as we accept the very real possibility that he can bust ours right back when our DI gun fails and his piston keeps running. Not a rare occurrence in my experience. For my part, I'm know I'm not necessarily smarter about firearms than some of my piston gun buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RearwardAssist View Post
    I'm not talking about giving some random person shit about the weapon not running I'm talking about busting a buddy's balls a little.
    Yeah this would definetely be giving a buddy some friendly crap for his choice. I've been to shoots with folks who were having all kinds of problems with jammomatic garbage but I don't give unsolicited advice to folks I don't really know. It's hard not to come off as an A..Hole so I just keep my mouth shut and rock on. Now with a buddy it's a different story - fair game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Trooper05 View Post
    Sometimes I think we get too wrapped up in what other people buy...
    But how else will people know how smart we are?

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    If y'all are buds, then some lighthearted ribbing is due IF his gun has issues.

    Could have been worse, he could have bought an Oly or DPMS.

    Plus, if I was a betting man, I would bet he'll have a DI AR in the next 18 months

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