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Thread: The VCOG is finally here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    my return to zero has been positive with the thumb screw mounts so far then again once its mounted i don't remove them call me weird......
    Weirdo. You mean to tell me you don't take off your optic between shots to demonstrate RTZ capability?! Pfft. Poser.....

    I don't think I've got a single optic that has ever been removed and replaced on a gun without taking it to the range shortly thereafter anyway. Anyone who isn't confirming zero after dicking with their optics deserves to miss whatever shot they're trying to take. Is it convenient when it's close to zero? Sure, but a couple clicks and slipping my turrets takes all of 15 seconds. Maybe. With the Accupoint turrets it literally takes 3 seconds. "Oh, an inch left ::click click click click:: BANG! Sweet!! ::lift slip, down:: man, that was easy...."

    Maybe I just don't understand the big deal with all the RTZ claims. Seriously, who gives a shit really? You're shooting your gun on a square range (or damn well should be) after you finger bang stuff to begin with.

    I certainly like the lower profile of most QD mounts on the market over a couple giant thumb screws (not so much Bobro as they stick 3/4 of an inch off the gun), but I have absolutely zero expectations from any of them aside from their ability to solidly mount my optic to my gun.

    As far as this relates to the VCOG, it doesn't. I certainly don't think it's a game changer or anything. It's Trijicon's effort in an already saturated market of low-powered variables of various pedigrees. If it had co-witnessed fiber/tritium reticle as well as the illuminated reticle it would be cool. As it stands now, it's in the middle with any other player in that specific market. Is it more durable? Most certainly. Does 99% of the civilian market care? Not a chance. 2 or 3 or 4 years ago this would have been the Short Dot killer. Right now it's just another scope in an already saturated market.
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    Who is even talking about RTZ? Who brought that up? I never remove my optics and always confirm zero at the range after too. That doesn't make the OEM mount not garbage.

    So the optic is robust. I believe that. It still doesn't set it apart from a bulletproof night force.

    Again, I love Trijicon. I'm not dogging this optic because I have a loyalty elsewhere. I'm just wondering why I should spend $2380 on this optic - what does it offer me that other options don't?

    I think your last paragraph is a good answer. The market is saturated with these and its just trijicons way of getting in the game. Just wish they added a little something extra to it. Tritium, fiber optic, etc (you know, like the rest of their products) That's why I choose trijicon over the competitors. And because they love Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Who is even talking about RTZ? Who brought that up? I never remove my optics and always confirm zero at the range after too. That doesn't make the OEM mount not garbage.

    So the optic is robust. I believe that. It still doesn't set it apart from a bulletproof night force.

    Again, I love Trijicon. I'm not dogging this optic because I have a loyalty elsewhere. I'm just wondering why I should spend $2380 on this optic - what does it offer me that other options don't?

    I think your last paragraph is a good answer. The market is saturated with these and its just trijicons way of getting in the game. Just wish they added a little something extra to it. Tritium, fiber optic, etc (you know, like the rest of their products) That's why I choose trijicon over the competitors. And because they love Jesus.
    I agree, saturated market with good products. I'm holding out to see a VCOG in person, but I was really impressed with the Mk6 when I looked through one in person, super bright and no illumination/eye-box issues that were previously reported. The only time the brightness dimmed out was when your head was already out of the eye box. Mk6 with mount still gonna be a couple hundred cheaper, better FOV, a few ounces lighter and the ability to dial shots instead of relying on the BDC... The one thing I really like about the VCOG is the ability to take AA batteries, not sure it is worth it when balanced out though.

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    I know there is a thread on variable optics, but I honestly haven't had time to read through the whole thing.

    With that being said, I have virtually zero experience with variable optics.

    Therefore, I can't say how I would benefit from either FFP or SFP.

    What would you guys recommend for a 1-4x or 1-6x if not the VCOG?
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    Most cant recommend the vcog since they haven't shot it
    there are many great choices...

    the VCOG was going to entered, if i recall correct the SCOP(squad common optic program) which was looking for a 1-6 optic if i recall correct
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    Thanks for the reply Steve. Have you tried this optic out at night? I love my Accupoint 1-4x24 to death (great FOV and eyebox), but I wound up selling it because the tritium illumination sucked at night. I found that out taking a class from Larry Vickers in Albion, MI a few years ago. The VCOG is LED illuminated, so I was wondering how well it worked at night and dark areas. Is the VCOG NVD compatible like the short dot? I see it could be used for hog hunting at night if it is; my SCAR-17 is in need of a scope. It's going to be this scope or the Kahles 1-6x.

    Zane1844: You don't have to level the VCOG and it comes with a AA battery to boot. Most heavy duty QD mounts will push the light weight of the Swarovski Z6i or Kahles pretty close to the VCOG with an ACOG type mount.

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    Field of view comparisons at 100yds, VCOG and some other popular scopes.

    Trijicon VCOG 1-6x - 95-15.9
    Trijicon TR24 1-4x - 97.5-24.2
    Leupold MK6 1-6X - 105.8-19.3
    Vortex Razor 1-6x - 115.2-20.5
    Swarovski Z6i 1-6x - 127.5-20.4
    Kahles K16i 1-6x - 134-21.6
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    Steve, I understand the battery life at 700 hours is based on setting 4 of 6, but I'm curious, at what setting does the VCOG become daylight bright and are any of the 6 settings night vision settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Steve, I understand the battery life at 700 hours is based on setting 4 of 6, but I'm curious, at what setting does the VCOG become daylight bright and are any of the 6 settings night vision settings?
    Pending lighting conditions, number 4/5 the first 3 setting are NVG compatible
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    Got one in last week..
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