How Has The Ongoing "War On Women" Simplistic Type Of Garbage Overtaken Politics?

[Safetyhit]

We all know many us have different opinions as a society regarding anything from toothpaste to politics, but even for a populace stupid enough to vote Obama twice how it is that all this idiotic "War On XYZ" crap is being tolerated and even expanded upon in any venue short of a sleazy novel is way beyond me. According to the administration and most of the media Republicans want war with women, education, equality, voting rights, the elderly (social security) and now we're back to another war on women. In other words they essentially hate everyone and want to destroy everything.

What the hell is happening to the people in this country? My elderly black neighbor, a smart and respectable woman who is the anti-gangster type (her son is a preppy school principal) and who is also my friend of a decade was perplexed when I told her yesterday it was going to rain today, this because she said all she watches is MSNBC. I said they don't have news anymore but rather only opinion, she agreed and said it's all she watches now, which I sort of knew because I've been in her house numerous times. I quietly turned away and walked toward my front door while she was still talking not giving two shits if I seemed rude because I've had it.

Yes she's black, but she's not stupid. At all. And she is one of far too many living in this bizzaro realm. I can't stand it and dealing with this slop to some extent every day is reducing our quality of life. Unless you're really disinterested you just can't help but sense the craziness around you and it is a downer. Thanks to the worst president in history, his administration from hell, his enablers in the media and a flat out dumb and lazy populace I just don't respect America like I used to and don't see it getting better anytime soon.

*Edit: Good heavens I forgot the now constant accusations of racism. Another big morale booster.

[J-Dub]

Most people have been dumbed down to the point Im surprised they can operate and carry out their daily tasks. I get to interact with about every walk of life, its not isolated to the low income/low information crowd.....the mass stupidity knows no boundary.

Decades of fast food, t.v./internet brainwashing (now smartphones), ect, ect, are more than likely to blame. They'll eat whatever shit those devices are shoveling...


But Im jaded/cynical, so this could all just be my personal view of the mass of dipshits called the "general population". Im also a firm believer that the "women's right movement" was nothing more than a ploy to ruin this country. Financially and morally.

[Straight Shooter]

I work with two black women like this. Both smart, up to date people. But...they bitch about things, that are directly the thinhs Obama & Dems have done..but then blame Repubs! They refuse to put the blame on the correct shoulders. I like to bait them into a conversation just to hear it sometime. They believe that CNN's word on anything is gospel. EVERY channel is right except FOX, they say. I tell them all the time I don't allow any news to come on my tv, I get my info from other sources, and they don't understand why I don't just watch tv and get told the news. They are SHEEP in the very essence of the name.

[kwelz]

You summed it up in the title. Simplistic. People would rather be spoon fed something basic that sounds catchy than actually look at details.

Most people want to be told what to believe and think. And the simpler the concept the better.

[Safetyhit]

All three of you guys make good points and some of the explanations are certainly plausible, but while I knew not everyone is the sharpest pencil in the box this widespread a problem is just bad. The left has become diabolically agenda driven, all of them from the politicians to the media to the special interest groups who will make certain your life is ruined if they find out you donated to a pro-life organization (Mozilla).

But they would all be powerless were it not for a huge segment of the population believing in them and even supporting them. And this is what I don't get, how so many are somehow either that clueless, selfish or just plain hateful of those that simply disagree with them. In other words we should be talking about 10%-15%, maybe 20% of the population, not 55 plus percent. That a dangerously high number, one that doesn't generate much confidence in our future as a nation.

[montanadave]

All three of you guys make good points and some of the explanations are certainly plausible, but while I knew not everyone is the sharpest pencil in the box this widespread a problem is just bad. The left has become diabolically agenda driven, all of them from the politicians to the media to the special interest groups who will make certain your life is ruined if they find out you donated to a pro-life organization (Mozilla).

But they would all be powerless were it not for a huge segment of the population believing in them and even supporting them. And this is what I don't get, how so many are somehow either that clueless, selfish or just plain hateful of those that simply disagree with them. In other words we should be talking about 10%-15%, maybe 20% of the population, not 55 plus percent. That a dangerously high number, one that doesn't generate much confidence in our future as a nation.

You are, of course, aware that those on the other end of the political spectrum are advancing exactly the same argument?

And therein lies the rub.

[Bolt_Overide]

I know a few people like this. I have basically written them off. We dont discuss politics anymore, and are happier for it.

[Koshinn]

You are, of course, aware that those on the other end of the political spectrum are advancing exactly the same argument?

And therein lies the rub.

You dont even have to go to the far other end of the political spectrum to see the same thing. You say anything about "registration" or "gay marriage" and you get crucified by not only the far right, but the moderate right as well.

The difference being, of course, that when you (not you you, but in general "you") look at "your" side being the unreasonable side, you play it down because you're the "correct" side.

[Belloc]

Well, you can put at least some (perhaps much, the point is debatable, but not deniable) of the blame on many Republicans (and not simply Democrats) themselves. When in their political stump speeches they (also) go around "declaring war" on everything, then that becomes the new political language de Jour. The "war on drugs", the "war on poverty", the "war on terrorism", and so on. Exactly how many "wars" on things (that can't actually ever be defeated because they are simply concepts or abstractions) have been declared by Bush I & II, Clinton, and Obama, I could not begin to guess at. I have simply lost count.

It also bears keeping in mind that many Americans, (and sadly even a few members of this and other gun forums) are actually diametrically opposed to the principles of our Founding Fathers, and are instead ideological adherents to the principles of the French Revolution, with all its blood drenched egalitarian rationalism at the expense of reason and belief in objective reality that are necessary to sustain freedom and liberty.

Thus one cannot ever hope to be considered a viable political candidate on the national stage who holds that the Brandenburg Concertos are in reality objectively better than the swill that pop culture regurgitates on the eager masses. The reason being that because if that is true, really and objectively true, (and not simply subjectively "true" for a particular individual, and I state since knowing full well that around 60% of the music in my record, cd, and iTunes collection was written in the last 50 years or so) then most all of society's post-modern deconstructionist assumptions and beliefs are revealed to be only so much nonsensical idiotic stupidity. Because then of course that absolutely and undoubtedly means that not all cultures are "equal", and not all tastes are "equal", and, gasp, males sodomizing each other is not the "equal" of the intimacy between a man and his wife, and thus there is no objective moral imperative to treat it as such.

There has never been, and there can never be, at one and the same time, both a free society, and a society of moral relativists. The Founding Fathers knew this to be true, the French Revolutionaries did not.

[montanadave]

Seeing as how sodomy always seems to pop up, what's the deal with heterosexual sodomy?