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Thread: 2 Rifles, 2 Optics. Which one would you put on which?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    This. I bet the ELW hangs with the SS barrel. We shot my 14.5 to 1050 yards and were getting repeat hits on an IPSC steel.
    What is it about the ELW that makes this the case? Weight reduction and a possibly quicker cooling time I get but what would make the ELW more accurate than a standard profile barrel of the same manufacture? Not to put words in your mouth, just going off the notion that SS is inherently more accurate than CL and that the ELW/Gov't/LW profiles from BCM have the same internal makeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanCrothers View Post
    What is it about the ELW that makes this the case? Weight reduction and a possibly quicker cooling time I get but what would make the ELW more accurate than a standard profile barrel of the same manufacture? Not to put words in your mouth, just going off the notion that SS is inherently more accurate than CL and that the ELW/Gov't/LW profiles from BCM have the same internal makeup.
    The bold is not exactly true. In general it applies, but just because its stainless doesn't make it more accurate. I believe HK has a precision rifle that is CL, CHF(iirc) and shoots sub .5moa with the right ammo. Stainless is EASIER to make accurate - but it doesn't always work out that way.

    That said. I would be a noveske would have an edge. The question for the OP is - does the accuracy advantage justify the weight? On the other hand, you may want more magnification on the noveske and the either the variable or aimpoint on the BCM.

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    Variable on the BCM. The rail will make up for the weight of the optic moreso on that platform. Both are plenty accurate to kill anything you have any reason to shoot (I assume you aren't shooting field-mice at 400m?)

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    Just gonna be punching paper at 300 yards max at my range. Might hit up some blm desert land for longer range stuff down the road however.

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    Hot swap them back and forth, decide which setup you like best. There's a good argument for both, and on paper you're probably on the right track, but you might find you're happier with two rifles around the same weight, but with different optics.
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    Put the magnification on whichever rifle shoots tighter groups. You will get more out of it. If they both shoot equally well, and weight is your concern, you have two options:

    1.) put the heavier optic on the lighter rifle and vice versa to "even out the weight" of the two rifles.
    2.) build the lighter rifle with the aimpoint micro, and have one rifle that is very light and one that isn't.

    The problem, and I speak from experience, is that light weight rifles are almost addictive.
    I have a Noveske 10.5 SBR in a Vltor vis2a polylithic upper, and it feels heavier than my 14.5 lw profile middy with a NSR rail and a ta31 on it. The SBR shoots a little smoother, but I think I need a heavier buffer for the middy. But, lately I prefer to shoot the 14.5. It is longer, and doesn't have quite the same "cool" factor, but I feel like a lighter gun with a little magnification is more capable. My SBR is pretty much just a range toy, unless somebody breaks into my home.

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    I would go with the Trijicon on the Noveski and Aimpoint on the BCM

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    I'm going to say it: I don't think either optic is "optimal" for your Afghan. That Noveske SS barrel will probably shoot tighter groups at distance than either of those optics will allow you to do. Heck, I bet the BCM can shoot tighter groups than either of those optics will allow you to do.

    At this point, it seems like the Afghan barrel is a waste. At the distance those optics are designed for, I don't think it will enable the shooter to use the Noveske barrel to outshoot the BCM barrel.

    I think you need a higher power scope for the Afghan to really see the difference between the two. Even then, you may not be able to.

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    Went this route for now






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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopro619 View Post
    Rifles:


    I have been considering throwing the TR24g on the Noveske, and putting the T1 and scout light on the BCM since it's so light.

    You discovered the magic answer already, I can't think of a better option given your info.
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