Interesting article on Iraq's quickly deteriorating government...

[Eurodriver]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...2ad_story.html

The Tribal Revolutionaries are ready to work with the United States to suppress al-Qaeda, Zaydan offers, but he warns: “Iraq is not now a state. It is led by gangs.”

[montanadave]

Anybody seeing a pattern here?

After watching that recent Errol Morris documentary with Don Rumsfeld, with Rumsfeld grinning like a cheshire cat as he parses and prevaricates his every statement and action as SecDef, I'm left wondering if every damn one of those who planned, promoted, and supported our invasion of Iraq shouldn't be run out of D.C. on a rail and permanently barred from ever holding any governmental position, whether it be elected, appointed, or hired.

[austinN4]

..................,I'm left wondering if every damn one of those who planned, promoted, and supported our invasion of Iraq shouldn't be run out of D.C. on a rail and permanently barred from ever holding any governmental position, whether it be elected, appointed, or hired.

It would be a good start!

[TAZ]

Anybody seeing a pattern here?

After watching that recent Errol Morris documentary with Don Rumsfeld, with Rumsfeld grinning like a cheshire cat as he parses and prevaricates his every statement and action as SecDef, I'm left wondering if every damn one of those who planned, promoted, and supported our invasion of Iraq shouldn't be run out of D.C. on a rail and permanently barred from ever holding any governmental position, whether it be elected, appointed, or hired.

Of course he has a shit kicking grin on his face. He just made millions on the deal and will make millions more as that shithole country implodes and we go nation building again.


The country as a whole just needs to secede from Washington DC and impose travel and economic sanctions against that new region.

[SomeOtherGuy]

The country as a whole just needs to secede from Washington DC and impose travel and economic sanctions against that new region.

That's a platform I could support.

[NWPilgrim]

Of course he has a shit kicking grin on his face. He just made millions on the deal and will make millions more as that shithole country implodes and we go nation building again.


The country as a whole just needs to secede from Washington DC and impose travel and economic sanctions against that new region.

Could we then legally support a local insurgency in DC? Ship arms, etc?

[Big A]

All part of the plan...

This will also be used to weaken Jeb Bush's shot at POTUS just like they used bridgegate to weaken Christie.

[montanadave]

All part of the plan...

This will also be used to weaken Jeb Bush's shot at POTUS just like they used bridgegate to weaken Christie.

Lest we forget, President Obama stole the Democratic nomination from Clinton in 2008 be beating her over the head with her senate votes supporting the Iraq war. Making an issue out of the Iraq war is likely to cause more harm to Hillary than it does to Jeb Bush.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Anybody seeing a pattern here?

After watching that recent Errol Morris documentary with Don Rumsfeld, with Rumsfeld grinning like a cheshire cat as he parses and prevaricates his every statement and action as SecDef, I'm left wondering if every damn one of those who planned, promoted, and supported our invasion of Iraq shouldn't be run out of D.C. on a rail and permanently barred from ever holding any governmental position, whether it be elected, appointed, or hired.

The Program for a New American Century (PNAC) was a NEOCON think tank in DC. An excerpt from one of their publications:

"The PNAC program, in a nutshell: America’s military must rule out even the possibility of a serious global or regional challenger anywhere in the world. The regime of Saddam Hussein must be toppled immediately, by U.S. force if necessary. And the entire Middle East must be reordered according to an American plan. PNAC’s most important study notes that selling this plan to the American people will likely take a long time, "absent some catastrophic catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor." (PNAC, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (1997), p.51)"

Then we have this . . . Gen. Clark US will attack 7 countries in 5 years

[Big A]

Lest we forget, President Obama stole the Democratic nomination from Clinton in 2008 be beating her over the head with her senate votes supporting the Iraq war. Making an issue out of the Iraq war is likely to cause more harm to Hillary than it does to Jeb Bush.

Nah, she'll get hounded about Bengahzi some and Jeb will be dragged over the coals because of his last name and Iraq was Daddy and Big Bro's playground so he'll suffer in the media from guilt by association. The Dems will use the collapse of Iraq against anybody with Bush as a last name seeking high office. Hell, they'll probably try to spin it against any republican candidate to make them out to be war mongers but if Jeb is the nominee it will just be icing on the cake.