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    Too Close For Comfort

    Sounds like the Bundy thing came awful close to going sidewise:

    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253955...-bundy-protest

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    When the Bureau of Land Management mobilized to go after Bundy's cattle two years ago, they did so under an administrative order. This time, it was considered a criminal matter, and the I-Team has learned that order went all the way to the White House for approval.
    That's interesting.




    The entire situation is/was a result of people either being pushed or at least the perception that they are being pushed to far by an over reaching government that is out of control and growing and gaining power at a pace that is almost unthinkable. That's why people drove from all over the country to get there and things almost got out of hand. I have no doubt that those people that pointed weapons in the general direction of the BLM or other and had their picture taken will suffer some sort of backlash from their actions.
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    I am so very glad that an FBI PATCON/COINTELPRO agent provocateur didn't light the powder keg on this one. A week or so ago I read an article that claimed a whistle blower leaked a document stating that Holder and given the okay on a drone strike at the Bundy ranch if things got out of hand. I have no idea how much truth there is to that story (nothing would surprise me) but considering all the angles that were/are still at play this whole situation could have sparked irreversible consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    I am so very glad that an FBI PATCON/COINTELPRO agent provocateur didn't light the powder keg on this one. A week or so ago I read an article that claimed a whistle blower leaked a document stating that Holder and given the okay on a drone strike at the Bundy ranch if things got out of hand. I have no idea how much truth there is to that story (nothing would surprise me) but considering all the angles that were/are still at play this whole situation could have sparked irreversible consequences.
    Even if this story was false, it WILL happen someday, mark my words.
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    I wonder if this would ave been another Lexington and Concord or another Ruby Ridge and Waco?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    I wonder if this would ave been another Lexington and Concord or another Ruby Ridge and Waco?
    Honestly? The ball would be in the gubment's court. IMO it would all hinge on whether the gubment kept it localized or got froggy and attempted to make some nationwide "crackdown" of sorts. Trying the latter could blow the lid off, likely in an irreversible way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    I am so very glad that an FBI PATCON/COINTELPRO agent provocateur didn't light the powder keg on this one. A week or so ago I read an article that claimed a whistle blower leaked a document stating that Holder and given the okay on a drone strike at the Bundy ranch if things got out of hand. I have no idea how much truth there is to that story (nothing would surprise me) but considering all the angles that were/are still at play this whole situation could have sparked irreversible consequences.
    Drone strike? Wow, I hadn't heard that. If true we are further down the rabbit hole than I had imagined. As ANBAK said though, it will probably happen some day no matter what and the "terrorist" tag will be used and people will say it was justified.
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    I thought the narrative spun by conservative media was that the protest was civil and peaceful?

    "Approximately 30 Metro officers stood between a crowd of 400 heavily armed, self-described militia and the federal employees who had gathered a few hundred head of Bundy's cattle."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I thought the narrative spun by conservative media was that the protest was civil and peaceful?

    "Approximately 30 Metro officers stood between a crowd of 400 heavily armed, self-described militia and the federal employees who had gathered a few hundred head of Bundy's cattle."
    Your insinuation is offensive.

    You must be a violent person because you carry a gun. When they army carries rifles to hand out water bottles, that must be a hostile act. Because they're armed.

    You can carry a gun, even a big one, and still be peaceful. Even while protesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wake.joe View Post
    Your insinuation is offensive.

    You must be a violent person because you carry a gun. When they army carries rifles to hand out water bottles, that must be a hostile act. Because they're armed.

    You can carry a gun, even a big one, and still be peaceful. Even while protesting.

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    I find your lack of reading the article posted in the OP lazy.

    As the crowd swelled and tempers flared, many in the crowd tried to goad the police, hurling taunts and insults.

    "They had no respect for authority. Everything that you can think of to call a human being, animals, everything," Jenkins said.

    One person in the crowd even asked Jenkins if he was ready to die.

    "It was a scary point in itself. They were in my face yelling profanities and pointing weapons. The Bundy son himself, that I was negotiating with, Dave, he did not do that, but all the associated people around him did do that," Lombardo said.

    Rhetoric grew more heated, and guns were pointed at officers.

    One Bundy supporter summed it up, "Had to happen sometime, might as well happen now, right?"

    "Some of them, there's no doubt from talking to me, want it, to get a chance that day to fire upon a police officer or authority period. I don't think it mattered if it was BLM or us," Jenkins said.
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