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    Oklahoma and NFA legislation

    Oklahoma is pretty awesome, I must say.

    HB2461 was passed by the House and Senate, requiring CLEOs to sign off on ATF Form 1 and 4s within 15 days of receipt of request for ceritifcation unless that person is prohibited by law from having that firearm or is the subject of a proceeding that could result in prohibition. Denied requests must have reasons given and can be appealed at a district court of the county in which the applicant resides.

    They basically changed the Form 1 and 4 from "may issue" to "shall issue" in Oklahoma. Which is kind of redundant because I can't imagine a CLEO in Oklahoma NOT signing off on a Form 1 or 4, but it's better to have it than to not have it.

    Then, in a twist (maybe), Mary Fallin vetoed it. Her reasoning was that it was trying to legislate the ATF, which OK doesn't have jurisdiction over. Her reasoning is incorrect as she doesn't understand the ATF process. It would've been nice to require ATF examiners to return Form 1 and 4s within 15 days, even if said law wouldn't be enforceable.

    Then the house overrode her veto in a 86-3 vote. It's to the senate now, but they voted 46-0 to pass it in the first place, so I don't forsee any problems.

    Why can't every state be like this?


    Here's the bill: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf...2461%20ENR.PDF

    News story: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-house-vot...rticle/4744695
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    If Texas would do that, I would start SBR'ing one of mine today.

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    Despite being red from border to border, we still have liberal leaning admins. OCPD Chief's Thoughts. As for Fallin, she is throwing a temper tantrum. The legislature did not pass or push any bills to restore the State Capitol so she veto'd all bills sent to her desk regardless of issue. The House overrode the veto, and despite the 46-0 vote initially passing it, I am hearing the Senate doesn't feel so inclined to vote on the override.

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    Go Okies!

    Very sweet, I am glad to read about this happening north of the Red River. I wish it were the same here. You would have a better chance winning the Kentucky Derby without a horse, then getting the Sheriff of Dallas County to sign your Form 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyx Z View Post
    If Texas would do that, I would start SBR'ing one of mine today.
    Anyone in Texas can get a CLEO if they try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Anyone in Texas can get a CLEO if they try.
    Hmm, everyone I've talked to has been rejected... or they went the trust route, not needing CLEO approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyx Z View Post
    Hmm, everyone I've talked to has been rejected... or they went the trust route, not needing CLEO approval.
    I bet all those rejected cannot name the 20+ folks authorized to sign.

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    Ok, so local CLEO sign-off happens in less than two weeks. Great. Now it's just that pesky 18mos for ATF to sign-off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Ok, so local CLEO sign-off happens in less than two weeks. Great. Now it's just that pesky 18mos for ATF to sign-off.
    If only common sense would prevail and 2nd and subsequent applications could be approved upon receipt. Since the NFA isn't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZGXtreme View Post
    If only common sense would prevail and 2nd and subsequent applications could be approved upon receipt. Since the NFA isn't going anywhere.
    That should be the least they could do. Save EVERYONE some effort. It makes so much sense that's the reason it'll never happen.
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