Tier 1 guys shooting

**ridgerunner70** · 05-08-14, 02:40

I have noticed with D4 and Pat Mac on there vids when shooting they don't hold nothing back on misses!! They'll even till you they did on the vid and post it!! Nothing but respect for them guys!! It takes a lot of balls to own up to misses from these guys and post them on YouTube or regular TV

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**SOW_0331** · 05-08-14, 03:43

Next time you head to the range, take all the books you own. Just shoot the shit out of them. You'll be doing them a favor.

What you're referring to is integrity, and the guys you mentioned have a lot of that. Integrity to their students and themselves. If you don't admit your weaknesses you'll never improve on them and, unlike the guys who want to sell theatrics, these guys get it.

Does anyone have their Tier Table handy that could fax it to me? I lost mine and the S Shop is being a real pissy bitch about letting me have a new one...."should have laminated it", they said. Need a table for reference, for without tiers, how doth one operate?

**scooter22** · 05-08-14, 05:58

Originally Posted by ridgerunner70

I have noticed with D4 and Pat Mac on there vids when shooting they don't hold nothing back on misses!! They'll even till you they did on the vid and post it!! Nothing but respect for them guys!! It takes a lot of balls to own up to misses from these guys and post them on YouTube or regular TV

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Come again?

**T2C** · 05-08-14, 07:30

Integrity is a valuable trait for an instructor.

**Detmongo** · 05-08-14, 10:15

Everyone misses once in awhile it's what you do after the miss that seperates D4,Mac and the others from the average shooters. They live follow thru. A miss in the real world with out follow thru could mean disaster for them.

**markm** · 05-08-14, 14:55

Originally Posted by scooter22

Come again?

D4 and Pat Mac, yo! Some sort of Rapp groups I reckon!

**GTF425** · 05-08-14, 15:10

Originally Posted by markm

D4 and Pat Mac, yo! Some sort of Rapp groups I reckon!

Word.

I laugh whenever someone says "Tier 1". They do realize it's the budget of the unit, not their "eliteness", right?

**Koshinn** · 05-08-14, 15:34

Originally Posted by GTF425

Word.

I laugh whenever someone says "Tier 1". They do realize it's the budget of the unit, not their "eliteness", right?

I laugh too, but only because from my background in computer science, you always start counting with 0, so what regular people call "tier 1" I see as the equivalent of "tier 2"... because "tier 0" would be better funded.