I also vote for Eotech, particularly when you say short range. I can get on target much faster with Eotech's because of the reticle. I am also more accurate with them (small 1 MOA center dot that doesn't "bloom" very much with my eyes).
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I also vote for Eotech, particularly when you say short range. I can get on target much faster with Eotech's because of the reticle. I am also more accurate with them (small 1 MOA center dot that doesn't "bloom" very much with my eyes).
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I like the eothech based 1 moa dot. But aimpoint has better battery life, both excellent optics i choose eotech
For a patrol rifle, go with an H-1 and zero it at 100m.
You can leave it turned on for years and it will always be ready for you. As much as I like EOTechs, I still recommend Aimpoints for the simple fact they're reliable, easy to train with, and have a great battery life.
How is the peripheral vision when using the Aimpoints? I held one on a rifle and felt like the tube was blocking some of my field of view (yes I shoot both eyes open)
IMHO, the smaller diameter tube makes it slightly harder to get the dot into your field of view when you mount the rifle. Training thing, consistently shouldering the gun, but in some positions it's just harder to line it up so you can find the dot first time every time. Less of an issue with a 30mm tube, even less of an issue with an Eotech.
Weight difference? I don't really notice it. IMHO, noticeable weight is at the muzzle end, not the stock end where both of your hands are for supporting it and where swinging the rifle from rest to firing all day doesn't really affect. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had to hump the rifle slung on my shoulder all day while tramping the boonies. But I don't.
The battery life thing could be an issue for some people in some situations. It might be important. For me and what I need out of my rifles, it's absolutely moot. I have no issue remembering to turn it on before use, just as I have no issue remembering to chamber a round or extend the stock to the right position. The Eotechs blink long before failure when the battery is getting weak in which case I just grab another CR123 from the storage in the stock, or from the shelf in the gun safe and drop in a new one. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had to grab my rifle at a moment's notice because the enemy is in the wire. But that doesn't happen to me either.
Trashing the T-1/H-1 is an unpopular position around here. The Aimpoint Micros have been "M4C Annointed". Personally, I just can't warm up. I think my Aimpoint PRO or any of my Eotechs are better optics. Just an opinion.
Last edited by Hmac; 05-11-14 at 13:40.
Too many bad stories of Eotechs on the forums for me to warm up to them and not being able to keep it on constantly are kinda deal breakers for me, but as an owner of an Aimpoint T-1 I think it's a decent optic, but shooting with both the T-1 and Aimpoint PRO I've grown to prefer the PRO. I think the T-1/H-1 is at home as a secondary optic on a 30 degree LaRue or DD mount.
I originally preferred the Eotech over the Aimpoint. I liked the reticle, and I liked the box vs circle window. But with the Pro being roughly $400, and now that a 2 MOA dot is offered, I feel that it is the best bang for your buck right now, and negates the one advantage Eotech had over the Aimpoint. I thought I would be a fan of the micro, but besides the weight I never really cared for it. Also over the last ten years of working retail, selling both Eotech and Aimpoint Products, and also taking classes and such, I've seen and sent too many eotechs go back to have faith in them for a duty rifle or serious use. Granted most are the 5 series, but I have never sent an aimpoint back for repair, it doesn't mean the Aimpoint will never fail, but the chance is lower IMO than with the Eotech. Also the 3-8 year battery life is HUGE to me. Now the XPS series seems to have resolved the shortcoming of the 5 series, but I still have a hard time going back to them. Honestly I think the Vortex and the Primary Arms have started to compete with the Eotechs as far as quality and ruggedness, and both have superior battery life with a better price point.
Last edited by VIP3R 237; 05-11-14 at 15:43.
Not sure why you felt the need for the last paragraph. M4C hasn't anointed anything. I like the Aimpoint for a variety of reasons. I suppose I would have given Eotech a chance, but I saw too many issues with them overseas and their customer service blew. Some times that first impression is a lasting impression thing is really true.
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You'll be well served with either these days. The new Eotechs don't seem to have any of the issues the Aimpoint fans like to keep bringing up from years past. If you get the XPS series you should be good to go.
I have both Eotechs and Aimpoints, and I prefer the Eotech reticle with 1 MOA center dot personally. I do like the continuous run feature and battery life of Aimpoints though. Pick either one and you'll be good to go.
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