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    Two teenagers shot dead burglarizing elderly woman's home, teenagers girlfriend says-

    http://fox40.com/2014/05/04/suspecte...mes-occupants/

    “He is a good person,” Davison cried. “Was a good person. He was just misunderstood.”
    There is a misleading quote about not blaming them for what they did. I can't figure out if she is advocating the burglary or understanding of why the homeowner shot them.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 05-13-14 at 06:48.

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    Shit's given.... Zero.

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    So since "they were doing what they needed to survive" it's ok to commit crimes?

    Talk about failure in logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo_Man View Post
    So since "they were doing what they needed to survive" it's ok to commit crimes?
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    There are safer ways to do what you need to do to survive. The survival rate of this kind of criminal activity can be pretty slim sometimes.

    I have seen people devote more time, effort and energy for less reward than would be required from even a minimum wage job. What they might have stolen from an old lady probably would have amounted to about the same pay as working a single shift at McDonalds. And at McDonalds you don't have to worry about the manager shooting you if you do something wrong.

    It's a shame this kid got a shitty handful of cards from the start, and CPS probably didn't do him many favors, but none of that excuses his actions and his poor decisions cost him his life and he took another kid with him.

    The only good thing is this "good kid" won't continue on the path he was on to become a "bad person" who might kill somebody one day. It's sad because he might have been able to turn things around and get it together but we'll never know because of his actions. Maybe others will take notice and maybe his example can save some other "good kids" who might be considering "bad ideas."
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    "He was a good person" I am SOOOO sick of hearing this. If you're going around hurting other people and committing crimes, you are not a good person. It's not society failing you, it's you failing society. There's nothing to misunderstand. And these people "doing what they had to survive?" In a country where you can make more money on welfare than you can in most jobs? Oh, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    In a country where you can make more money on welfare than you can in most jobs?
    Have numbers to back that up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    http://fox40.com/2014/05/04/suspecte...mes-occupants/



    There is a misleading quote about not blaming them for what they did. I can't figure out if she is advocating the burglary or understanding of why the homeowner shot them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo_Man View Post
    So since "they were doing what they needed to survive" it's ok to commit crimes?

    Talk about failure in logic.
    I read the entire story and the excuse making was not as bad as some other cases. I'm fairly certain that the deceased's family/friends do not blame the shooters for defending themselves. Here is the entire quote:

    “I don’t blame them (the shooter) for doing what they did,” Ashleigh’s mother, Tracy Webb said about the shooting. “It’s not right to break in and to burglarize people’s homes. No, it’s not. But at the same time, a life has been lost. A life has been taken. I’m sure he and a friend, Michael Sambrano, were doing what they thought they needed to do to survive.”
    Last edited by Sensei; 05-13-14 at 09:44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Have numbers to back that up?
    Last year there were several articles where the average benefits received was equivalent to ~62k a year or somewhere around that number. That more than many states average income.... More than most e1-e6 pay including their BAH and insurance etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    I read the entire story and the excuse making was not as bad as some other cases. I'm fairly certain that the deceased's family/friends do not blame the shooters for defending themselves. Here is the entire quote:
    Was that from a different source or did you add that part about the shooting? I want to believe that's what Tracy Webb meant, but part of me can see her excusing the burglary as "doing what they needed to do".

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