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Thread: My First AR-15: CORE 15 M4 Piston. A Keeper????

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    From my post count, you can correct tly infer that I'm a noob. However, knowing that I didn't know squat, I spent months reading and paying attention to the folks that seemed like they knew their stuff.

    After all that, my first AR is a BCM midlength SS410 16" with a KMR. I spent a little more than the OP, but I know I got something that shoots better than I ever could and will probably last for decades.

    Had I listened to my LGS, I would've paid over $1600 for a heavy ass piston Sig or $1200 for a S&W AR. I'd still take either of those over an $1100 Core 15.

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    I disagree.

    A quality purchase is important. Especially if you even have an inkling of a thought to use it for a defensive situation. I wouldn't use anything less for the defense of my family, nor myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeM4 View Post
    Chances are, you'll be fine with your CORE rifle. And since you are a new shooter, this will not be your last AR.

    Use it to learn how to shoot and learn the platform, then down the road buy a Colt or BCM.

    Many people here always point to better and more reputable brands, but if you are a casual shooter that shoots less than 1k rounds a year, its really not an issue to not have a top-tier rifle. My first AR was a Bushmaster M4A3 (from the original Bushmaster) and it was a great rifle in my experience.

    Although you did overpay, its your money, so if you are happy with the purchase then no harm done.

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    I made a similar mistake on my first AR purchase. I have a couple of BCMs now. Lesson learned the hard way but I will not make the same mistake again.
    Last edited by LoveAR; 05-22-14 at 08:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father of 3 View Post
    Last week I picked up my first AR15. It is a CORE 15 M4 Piston model. I went in my LGS looking for a Colt and they suggested this as they did not have any Colts in stock. It was listed for $1120. I didn't know much about them but I couldn't pass up the deal and goodies the guy was offering to go with it. I ended up buying a weapon that I know nothing about the make, which is extremely rare. Can we say impulsive?

    I have since been doing some research since. What I have found about CORE 15 is that they are manufactured by a company that builds Airboats, Israel Anzaldua, formerly from Bushmaster, is their VP, and they are guns built by shooters. They are built to Mil Spec or tighter tolerances, 1/7 barrel chambered in 5.56x45mm, Lifetime transferrable warranty.

    Seems like a good deal and it is a gas piston system. The gas piston system is an Adams Arms system and they have a proprietary bolt that is suppose to alleviate some of the issues that can be associated (bolt tilt I think) with piston systems.

    What do you guys think? Good deal for a piston rifle? Sell it and buy a Colt 9620?

    Here's What I Have:

    http://core15rifles.com/core15-m4-pi...le-100279.html
    I hate to rain on your parade but I would sell it and buy at least a Colt. I'm still a new guy here but my first AR was a Colt back in the early 1980s. I only bought Colts until BCM was born. I will admit that I purchased a S&W M&P15 Sport recently because it was $500. I'd trust that Smith over a CORE. YMMV

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    I work for an LGS, we have about 7 -8 Core rifles in our shop, they'll sit on the self for a while because we don't push them like other quality brands. People always ask me Piston or DI, I say it depends on your needs, but for the most part a DI will do just fine. I've seen the articles and heard everyone tell me about how much DI guns jam but I haven't seen it myself. If you only shoot 350-500rds per year the Core will be just fine for you. If you shoot more than that and push your rifle to perform under conditions other than a lane at the range then even a piston gun might not do it for you. A gunsmith once told me that the more moving parts the more that can go wrong, I would tell you to sell your Core and find something different.
    I perfer black coffee in the morning, bourbon in evenings and spending money on sh*t I probably don't need.

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    Well, I like my Core 15 (DI, not piston) and shoot it more than I do my LMT, my S&W, my 3 PSA's, my Spirit Arms/Spikes, but I guess I fall short because I don't own a Colt, or a BCM, or a DD so I must be doing things wrong. Oh well, can't have everything
    Last edited by Hot Holster; 05-21-14 at 23:50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Holster View Post
    Well, I like my Core 15 (DI, not piston) and shoot it more than I do my LMT, my S&W, my 3 PSA's, my Spirit Arms/Spikes, but I guess I fall short because I don't own a Colt, or a BCM, or a DD so I must be doing things wrong. Oh well, can't have everything
    You mean to say your Core15 has not self destructed after actually shooting live ammo through it?
    'Evil Minds That Plot Destruction'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airhasz View Post
    You mean to say your Core15 has not self destructed after actually shooting live ammo through it?
    Unbelievable, isn't it?
    Marriage is a good institution, considering you're ready for one.

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    I love when people try to justify buying sub standard junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Holster View Post
    Well, I like my Core 15 (DI, not piston) and shoot it more than I do my LMT, my S&W, my 3 PSA's, my Spirit Arms/Spikes, but I guess I fall short because I don't own a Colt, or a BCM, or a DD so I must be doing things wrong. Oh well, can't have everything
    Nothing wrong with liking it.

    I know we all like to think everything is all the same quality, but it isn't. For instance, are all tools the same? How bout cars? Nope, there are differences.

    Quality is quality and in the bigger picture, there is re-sale value. None of the AR's you listed (less the LMT) have any kind of positive re-sale value. What this actually means, is that people do not believe that they are worth much. On the flip side, DD, BCM, Colt, Noveske, KAC, etc DO have a large re-sale value and can often times command $2-4k OVER what you paid for them!

    On top of the above, the guns you mentioned (less LMT) are not built to the TDP. This means that the manufacturer follows their own standards (which loosely translates into lower quality parts, less QC and build standards).

    Did you fall short? Depends. Does any of the above matter to you? If not, then no.

    Enjoy your AR's.



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