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Developing story: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/24...-barbara-area/
A lawyer for a Hollywood director says he suspects his son carried out a mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara campus late Friday that left seven people dead, including the gunman, and 11 injured in what authorities say was a “premeditated mass murder.”
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Last edited by 7.62NATO; 05-24-14 at 22:22.
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Looks like parents warned LE in advance. From first link:
Shifman says the director's family called police several weeks ago after being alarmed by YouTube videos "regarding suicide and the killing of people."
The lawyer said police conducted an investigation and interviewed the young man. Shifman said police did not find a history of guns, but did say the man had trouble making friends.
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WTF is a "history of guns"? History of violent behavior, history of mental illness, etc is what matters. Ugh. So first we have "gun violence" and now "history of guns"? Let's hope the latter does not become the new media sound bite as the former did.Originally Posted by austinN4
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I'm seeing this in several reports-"history of guns". What-the guy said he was going to kill others and because he didn't have a history of owning guns he was determined to be a sane, fine, upstanding young man? And someone else had said in a news report that "it's hard to predict when these things will happen" or something like that. For God's sake, the guy posted that he was going to do it-what more predictions do you need?!!
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The parents had gone to the police, pleading with them to do something, and showed them NUMEROUS nut-job videos he had made.
Good job police.
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How do we blame the police for that? What can they legally do? You know the drill here, they can't (legally) nor will they, arrest every angry kid who says dumb shit on the 'net. 1 in a million or so times, POS kid actually means it and does it. There's surprisingly little the police can do until after the crime is committed, hence the known catch 22 of our legal system. We don't have all the facts to know what, if any, legit signs they have overlooked, or didn't. Let's hold off on the accusations 'till we have something go on, or are media reports good enough now? Go search YT, there's 10 zillion nut jobs on there making vids. Per usual, Free Speech is not free and also has its costs.
What should we do with this guy? I'd bet $$$ he's a potential threat to women, worse the the kid above:
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People disappear all the time never to be heard from again . . . just say'n these things happen.
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The mechanism this degenerate used to kill innocent people will be the focus of the media for some time. If he took flight lessons and crashed an airplane into a college dorm, the media coverage would die down much more quickly.
I am not sure what the police could have done to stop this turd. When more information about the pre-incident investigation is released and how California law applies, we will have a better idea about what the police could have done. At least the parents took steps to try to stop this from happening, which says something about the parents.
Too bad the little shit didn't go out in the woods and shoot himself instead of involving other people in his warped plan.
Last edited by T2C; 05-24-14 at 20:11.
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Couldn't he have been atleast taken in for psych evaluation?
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