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    I hear what you are saying. But, you're telling me that a soldier can't afford an H3 buffer for 37.95? I don't have a thousand dollars laying around for H3 buffers either. If it was important enough I would get some money together (or see about unit funds) and I would order them. How long is mail taking now?

    When I was there it took about 10 days depending on location.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTF425 View Post
    The reason I was asking is because we are having some issues with the increased cyclic rate with our M4s, even more so with the Soldiers who have access to cans. We were able to source enough H6s to outfit my Platoon with, and I was asking just in case anyone had hands on experience with this combo in theater already and could share how it worked for them. Seems I'm the first one on M4C to give it a shot, and as you guessed, it works.

    To the members who were helpful, I appreciate it.

    Given your MIL experience, IG, I figured you'd understand why this would be a question worth asking. Not all of us can afford to pick up 30+ H2/H3s out of pocket, but if what we can find will work, that's better than nothing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I hear what you are saying. But, you're telling me that a soldier can't afford an H3 buffer for 37.95? I don't have a thousand dollars laying around for H3 buffers either. If it was important enough I would get some money together (or see about unit funds) and I would order them. How long is mail taking now?

    When I was there it took about 10 days depending on location.
    PM sent.

    The major issue is a lot of guys don't know why the increased cyclic rate would be a problem, and I absolutely will not force a Soldier to spend money on something he *should* be given. It's his life on the line, and I owe it to him to make sure he has what he needs to fight and kill mother****ers. Anything else is a failure on my part as his NCO.

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    I get what you are saying, but the chart is not something I would rely on. I know your weapon is overgassed no doubt (because of the shit I have heard about that ammo). But, I would be making this issue well known to the COC so it can be addressed. If you have to piss people off to get through, so be it.

    You're right soldiers shouldn't have to spend their money on that, but it's happened before and it will happen again. I would be getting someone to use the unit slush fund that almost everyone has to get them. And I am sure that someone on this end would help facilitate it if necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTF425 View Post
    PM sent.

    The major issue is a lot of guys don't know why the increased cyclic rate would be a problem, and I absolutely will not force a Soldier to spend money on something he *should* be given. It's his life on the line, and I owe it to him to make sure he has what he needs to fight and kill mother****ers. Anything else is a failure on my part as his NCO.



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    The important thing is that the new bullet is lead free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    The important thing is that the new bullet is lead free.
    The Earth has been saved!

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    while the enviro wackos no doubt were the reason for the change in ammo, the last laugh might be on them, as it may well lead to better recycling and composting of enemy fighters. An article in the current American Rifleman by Major John Plaster (ret) claims the A1 has better accuracy and penetration than the 855. So potentialy more lethal! Too soon to tell, but if his claims are true, could be an improvement, in spite of the political correctness that initiated the program.
    Believe the article said best accuracy is achieved w 1/8 twist rather than 1/7.
    Wonder if this ammo will be verboten for civilian use since it has a penetrator nose.

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    Yep. I read that article. The projectile itself seems to be better than ss109, but the monumental stupidity in the rest of the round's constraints and development is disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Yep. I read that article. The projectile itself seems to be better than ss109, but the monumental stupidity in the rest of the round's constraints and development is disturbing.
    I wonder if std M855 would have faster and more consistent upset if we just cranked chamber pressure and velocity to equal A1?

    I bet the differences would be minimal at that point, other than barrier performance.

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    I doubt anything will make SS109 a good performer. Regardless... the brain dead powers that be were fixated on a lead free projectile.

    If they weren't retarded, and actually had good ammo as their REAL goal, they'd have matched an OTM to the trajectory of the M855.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I doubt anything will make SS109 a good performer. Regardless... the brain dead powers that be were fixated on a lead free projectile.

    If they weren't retarded, and actually had good ammo as their REAL goal, they'd have matched an OTM to the trajectory of the M855.
    Agreed. They could have just t used the bonded version of Mk318, which federal had already developed.

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