Duty ammo for my carbine

[T2C]

Brainfart on my part. You are correct. Do you happen to know of a link on how it does against soft body armor? A consistent drill I do on my own is a failure drill and am confident out to 25 yards with that drill. With the watch I work, an active school shooter scenario is a real possibility.

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I don't have a link for Win PPT performance against body armor.

When training to respond to an active shooter incident, practice at least out to 100 yards. A few of the schools I surveyed have hallways longer than 100 yards. If you drive the shooter outside the building, it may require taking a long shot as well.

[1730]

T2C thank you for your diligence and valuable time for that work. I saw on YouTube a gel test of the ppt, the gentleman from TN did and it's ugly what it does when it enters the simulant.

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[1730]

I don't have a link for Win PPT performance against body armor.

When training to respond to an active shooter incident, practice at least out to 100 yards. A few of the schools I surveyed have hallways longer than 100 yards.

Our older high schools absolutely. A few of the grammar schools, yes. The rest of them not so much. Unfortunately, only one indoor range is 75 yds. Our dept ranges are 25 yds. I will be going to an outdoor range in two weeks where I can really test the 100yd zero. If I like the place I will have to join.

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[Jim D]

Anything .223 will blow clean through any soft armor, unless it hits a hard barrier first and makes contact as fragments instead of a full speed solid projectile.

[Caduceus]

Re: the Win PPT round, are you speaking of either the RA223 or RA556 round? Both of those are/were on Doc GKR's short list.

If you're not speaking of those rounds, which one in particular?

Personally I'd rather take a 62 (or 64gr) round over 55gr for most situations. If nothing else, most optics with BDC's are calibrated to SS109.

[1730]

Re: the Win PPT round, are you speaking of either the RA223 or RA556 round? Both of those are/were on Doc GKR's short list.

If you're not speaking of those rounds, which one in particular?

Personally I'd rather take a 62 (or 64gr) round over 55gr for most situations. If nothing else, most optics with BDC's are calibrated to SS109.

RA223. As for your other thoughts, it's what the MAN says so, while I am a bit of a rebel, I do follow orders. Thank you for your input.

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[Caduceus]

RA223. As for your other thoughts, it's what the MAN says so, while I am a bit of a rebel, I do follow orders. Thank you for your input.

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The RA223 is probably your best choice then. I believe SG Ammo tends to sell 200 round packages for around $180.

[1730]

The RA223 is probably your best choice then. I believe SG Ammo tends to sell 200 round packages for around $180.

But as I thought of it I have both my buis and optic zeroed at a hundred yds and used xm193. So I may be SOL. Unless POI for the ppt is within a quarter of inch difference at a hundred.

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[roadtoad]

223 nosler defense?

[BufordTJustice]

223 nosler defense?

If it's the 64gr bonded, yes.

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