Another Campus Shooting: Seattle Pacific University

[Voodoo_Man]

Other ways to spin it:

You don't need guns to defend yourself, you only need pepperspray!

He was stopped when he was reloading! That's why box magazine fed firearms are so dangerous - if the shooter has to load individual rounds every time you reload, it gives the victims a chance to stop the shooter.

Invalid arguments since its a shotgun. Are they going to go after shotguns? Fudds will love that.

[Koshinn]

Invalid arguments since its a shotgun. Are they going to go after shotguns? Fudds will love that.

No, it's a great argument because it was a shotgun.

Shotguns with typically non-box-magazine-fed design take longer to reload and have less magazine capacity. Because of this, people with only pepperspray could take down the shotgun user before too many people were injured and killed.

Rifles with box-magazine-fed-designs spend minimal time reloading and tend to accumulate much more injuries and deaths.

Everyone would be happy if all mass-shootings were like this, with 5 injured, maybe only 1 death. The libs are very happy that the shooter was stopped without the victims needing a firearm.


If anything, this shooting is perfect ammunition for the anti-gunners. It's proof that if rifles are banned, crazy people with shotguns can be stopped easy. And it's proof that you do not need a gun to defend yourself against someone with a gun. This story can be used as an example of why semi-auto rifles should be carefully controlled, why magazines should have low capacity limits, and why concealed carry is not necessary... because this is a success story.

[Voodoo_Man]

No, it's a great argument because it was a shotgun.

Shotguns with typically non-box-magazine-fed design take longer to reload and have less magazine capacity. Because of this, people with only pepperspray could take down the shotgun user before too many people were injured and killed.

Rifles with box-magazine-fed-designs spend minimal time reloading and tend to accumulate much more injuries and deaths.

Everyone would be happy if all mass-shootings were like this, with 5 injured, maybe only 1 death. The libs are very happy that the shooter was stopped without the victims needing a firearm.


If anything, this shooting is perfect ammunition for the anti-gunners. It's proof that if rifles are banned, crazy people with shotguns can be stopped easy. And it's proof that you do not need a gun to defend yourself against someone with a gun. This story can be used as an example of why semi-auto rifles should be carefully controlled, why magazines should have low capacity limits, and why concealed carry is not necessary... because this is a success story.

I am tracking.

Issue is, still an "active shooting" with a shotgun, which is pretty much hands off for anti's since the fudds love their shotguns. They start attacking shotguns and before they know it every "hunter" in the North America will be anti them.

[Koshinn]

I am tracking.

Issue is, still an "active shooting" with a shotgun, which is pretty much hands off for anti's since the fudds love their shotguns. They start attacking shotguns and before they know it every "hunter" in the North America will be anti them.

There is no way that competent anti-gun strategists will go after shotguns.

That's assuming a lot... competent and anti-gun strategist at the same time is a lot to ask for... but if I were one, I'd say that this shows that shotguns do less damage than mass-knife-stabbings. The 2A has always been held that it's ok to allow some types of arms and disallow other types of arms... so I'd say to allow pump action shotguns and bolt action rifles, but ban everything else. This shooting is a perfect reason why.

[Voodoo_Man]

There is no way that competent anti-gun strategists will go after shotguns.

That's assuming a lot... competent and anti-gun strategist at the same time is a lot to ask for... but if I were one, I'd say that this shows that shotguns do less damage than mass-knife-stabbings. The 2A has always been held that it's ok to allow some types of arms and disallow other types of arms... so I'd say to allow pump action shotguns and bolt action rifles, but ban everything else. This shooting is a perfect reason why.

Then when someone who knows (by watching youtube) how to run a shotgun starts wrecking people with 00 buck and flight stabilizer's, then what are they gana say...."we were wrong?"

They are on board the USS fail boat and this is just another wave.

[Koshinn]

Then when someone who knows (by watching youtube) how to run a shotgun starts wrecking people with 00 buck and flight stabilizer's, then what are they gana say...."we were wrong?"

They are on board the USS fail boat and this is just another wave.

You never admit defeat, you redirect and move on!


It's frustrating how many people fall for that.

[Voodoo_Man]

You never admit defeat, you redirect and move on!


It's frustrating how many people fall for that.

That's politics, 101.

102 is making them think they are wrong, even though they are right.

[alvincullumyork]

According to Facebook the hero with the pepper spray appears to be a gun guy. I saw his page briefly, I think it's down now, and he had a lot of gun "likes".

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/us/seattle-hero-profile

"Carried pepper spray just in case."


I may ride a little fast and someday it may catch up and bite me in the ass but maybe not if I give it just a little more gas.

[skijunkie55]

And on a related note of shootings this week - didn't want to start another thread...

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/deput...rthouse/ngFsf/

Forsyth County Sheriff Duane Piper said the shooter, Dennis Marx, walked into Forsyth County Administration Building on East Main Street at about 10:30 a.m. and opened fire. He was armed with an assault rifle, according to authorities. Prior to walking inside, Piper said Marx threw stop sticks on the road so that cars could not approach....

....The gunman's attorney told Channel 2 she was representing him until Thursday, when she withdrew because he was unsatisfied with her negotiating skills. He was due in court on Friday for marijuana and firearms charges. The attorney said the man was a gun buyer and trader.

The attorney said she asked the man to undergo a psychological evaluation, but he refused.

Again, how did he not get picked up BEFORE he started shooting??? Drug possession and firearm charges?? And he's free to keep his guns and do whatever he wants?

[jpmuscle]

Gun buyer and trader eh? May as well of been a full blown terrorist then.

At any rate sounds like someone somewhere dropped the ball, again..

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