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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedoooom View Post
    They are? I guess the tried and true fact that billet cranks are stronger than forged cranks in the automotive industry doesn't apply?
    If by forged you actually mean cast than yes the "forged" part is weaker than a billet.

    All things being equal (weight, heat treat and materials) forged components are stronger than machined billet. The extra you are paying for in billet components is the additional machining and material lost in the process of machining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    If by forged you actually mean cast than yes the "forged" part is weaker than a billet.

    All things being equal (weight, heat treat and materials) forged components are stronger than machined billet. The extra you are paying for in billet components is the additional machining and material lost in the process of machining.
    Oh yes, people within the automotive industry don't know the difference between forged and casting. What a bunch of rubes!

    Don't be ridiculous, they use billet over forged from Formula 1 to NASCAR to endurance racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedoooom View Post
    Oh yes, people within the automotive industry don't know the difference between forged and casting. What a bunch of rubes!

    Don't be ridiculous, they use billet over forged from Formula 1 to NASCAR to endurance racing.
    Economy of scale, not strength, is what drive high performance component manufacturing. These racing teams are not ordering thousands of a highly specialized crankshaft so it is more economical for them to machine the components out of billet. You don't get a huge variety in design with forgings, the dies are relatively fixed to produce a rough shape. So for performance vehicle parts for extracting as much power as possible for as little initial start up cost, billet is the way they go.

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    jerrysimons, thanks for the post with data that was actually pertinent to the topic.


    *hint, hint, hint
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    jerrysimons, thanks for the post with data that was actually pertinent to the topic.


    *hint, hint, hint
    My apologies for throwing this topic further off track. From here on I'll respectfully stay out of the thread until I have something pertinent to the main topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedoooom View Post
    They are? I guess the tried and true fact that billet cranks are stronger than forged cranks in the automotive industry doesn't apply?

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    I received my BALIOS-Lite set last week. The machine work is simply perfect, as is the anodizing.

    The plan is to build a lightweight 300BLK using a thin profile barrel and a BCM KMR forend. I will likely stay with conventional bolt and carrier parts to help maintain reliability.




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    “The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    The "cut" doesn't bother me at all. If they were to change anything for a differnt look (because looks is all it would be about, not function), I think it would be easier/better to just remove the small raised rib on the upper that makes the cut look like a channel on the standard set. On the Lite set, the "cut" fits right in with the other milled areas.

    And about making it easier for Aunt Marge to install the bolt catch, changing the lower just for the look is like helping Aunt Marge coordinate her purse with her AR. Aunt Marge should choose another set if the Balios receiver set doesn't go with her outfit.

    But what do I know, I only ponied up the cash and bought a set of the Balios Lite.
    I wouldn't worry about his comment. It stems from complete irrationality and is just his ego talking. It makes absolutely no sense to not like a feature that causes no functionality problems and makes a task easier to do.

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