I've been very pleased with any Bladetech product I've purchased, with my RMR and flashlight on my G34, and 26 round magazine, I'm not thinking of conceal carrying it.
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I've been very pleased with any Bladetech product I've purchased, with my RMR and flashlight on my G34, and 26 round magazine, I'm not thinking of conceal carrying it.
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Originally Posted by Rohardi
I think he was suggesting trying one of their Phantom holsters for your 19. I know they make custom holsters for RMR equipped pistols.
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Ah, ok, I only use IWB concealable holsters for the most part, I wouldn't carry with an OWB holster.
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They can be worn iwb.
Iirc, comptac can be easily modded to accept an mrds
Last edited by MegademiC; 06-15-14 at 21:21.
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Yeah I know what you mean. Just FWIW, I never tried anything other than their VG2 for a while for the same reason. I ended up buying one for the few times when I knew I'd be comfortable open carrying and found that I could easily conceal it to within my comfort zone with most of my normal wardrobe. And this was with a FS M&P9 w/ X300. I also ended up leaving it on while at home unlike IWB holsters because it was more comfortable. Just throwing it out there.
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I have no issue concealing a G19 OWB in a RC phantom in the winter with heavier clothing. I even feel comfortable with my G34 with an X300 OWB in a RC Phantom LC holster with a hoodie. In the summer it's generally my G26 or G19 in the Vanguard 2.
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Great write up and review - thanks for taking the time! One caution I will offer to anyone considering a red dot sight for a pistol though... Longevity seems to be the main issue. I remember reading that Hilton Yam has gone through at least 4 or 5 RMR's with not very high round counts. The other thing, and I'm not suggesting you are doing this PT, is that just because a Tier 1 unit uses a certain piece of equipment, doesn't mean it's suitable for the rest of us. Tier 1 units tend to favor EOTechs, yet many of us in the shooting world have seen countless EOTechs fail over and over. We don't have a support network that provides new parts/gear every time something doesn't work properly. There is nobody inspecting and maintaining my equipment after each arrest, competition, class, etc. other than me. Where some military units might be able to afford to run pistol mounted RDS even with the current failure rate - I cannot afford that.
The good news is companies are continually getting better and improving their products. I expect one day a RDS on a pistol will be as common as it is now on a rifle. But for now I'll wait and see. Kudos to guys like PT for keeping us in the loop. I hope you'll periodically stop back into this thread and update us on how it's doing, round count, etc.
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Re. Reliability...I spent a lot of time reading about the Trijicon RMR. I think you will find that the adjustable models are the ones that had more reliability issues.
Use the Google advanced search feature and limit your search to the past year, then enter as many word combinations as you can think of with "malfunction" or "break" etc.
Doing this I found no widespread reports of problems in the past year or so.
You mention Yam.
His articles on the RMR were very helpful. If you read his articles chronologically you will notice his reports of problems date to 2012, with the adjustable models.
His more recent articles indicates he is an enthusiastic proponent of red dots and uses them on his duty weapons. I have not noticed him reporting negative experiences in the past year or more.
So, Cid, sorry but your remarks re reliability are dated and incorrect.
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Last edited by ptmccain; 06-16-14 at 11:56.
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I was in no way trying to downplay their importance or benefits, and it appears I may have come off negatively. If that's the case it was not intentional.
That said... this quote is from December 2013, "Pistol optics still fail, and irons are necessary."
and can be found here: http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=5411#more-5411
There is also an issue when using them in inclement weather: http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=4096
This quote, "I would not currently recommend the mini red dots for duty use due to the durability issues, as well as transition training and sustainment required to stay successful with them." (Sept 8, 2013)
can be found here: http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=3551#more-3551
And I know for a fact Hilton does NOT use a RDS on his duty pistols in any capacity.
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Cid, sorry, but in my opinion your assessment of the reliability of the RMR is lacking in facts, based on older information and therefore quite incorrect. They have in fact proven now to be very rugged and reliable. You may want to do more research rather than rely on simply anecdotal generalizations from one source. Easily done by spending some time doing detailed searches using Google's advanced search functionality.
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