America's "Come to Jesus" Moment in Iraq

[Iraqgunz]

Kurdistan needs to declare independence. We need to strengthen ties with them. Sell them what they need to be successful. Kurdistan is much different than the rest of that shit country.

If Maliki wants help it needs to be tied to a set of conditions. But, it won't happen so we can forget it.

[ABNAK]

Read tonight that one of the options, before the use of force is explored, is to convince the Iraqi government to form a new coalition government without Maliki. I would assume someone more Sunni-friendly.

Good luck with that.

[montanadave]

One fantasy I occasionally entertain is the notion of letting the Chinese have a crack at the Persian Gulf. Everybody else has had a chance to bust their pick in that particular shit hole so why not let the Chinese give it a go? Frankly, China and the other Pacific Rim economies are the ones most dependent upon Middle East oil and gas reserves.

How's this for a slick deal. We tell the Chinese that we will gladly step aside and let them have the Persian Gulf (by whatever means they deem most expeditious). In trade, they write off all the money we've borrowed and we agree to focus our concentration on the World Cup, Wimbledon, Nascar, and Kanye & Kim while their Sino hordes conduct a little housecleaning prior to painting CNOOC signs on every pump jack and tank battery in the Middle East.

Win, win, no?

[The_War_Wagon]

How about we tap into the massive oil deposits we have in USA territory, like in...Alaska, and tell the Middle East where it can get off.

Because the rare & endangered snow dandelion ONLY grows, wherever oil companies attempt to drill...

[Whiskey_Bravo]

Kurdistan needs to declare independence. We need to strengthen ties with them. Sell them what they need to be successful. Kurdistan is much different than the rest of that shit country.

If Maliki wants help it needs to be tied to a set of conditions. But, it won't happen so we can forget it.

This.

Support the Kurds with what they need and if we get involved with the rest of Iraq it needs to be under certain conditions.

[brickboy240]

How about us green-light the XL Pipeline and build a few more refineries and never go into ANY of those Mid East hell holes ever again?

This would be cheaper and put people to work and we would not have to see more flag draped coffins or videos of Americans getting their heads sawed off.

Seriously....we need to stop being the world's police force. They don't want democracy....get over it.

-brickboy240

[SteyrAUG]

Kurdistan needs to declare independence. We need to strengthen ties with them. Sell them what they need to be successful. Kurdistan is much different than the rest of that shit country.

Been saying that for awhile now.

[SteyrAUG]

One fantasy I occasionally entertain is the notion of letting the Chinese have a crack at the Persian Gulf. Everybody else has had a chance to bust their pick in that particular shit hole so why not let the Chinese give it a go? Frankly, China and the other Pacific Rim economies are the ones most dependent upon Middle East oil and gas reserves.

How's this for a slick deal. We tell the Chinese that we will gladly step aside and let them have the Persian Gulf (by whatever means they deem most expeditious). In trade, they write off all the money we've borrowed and we agree to focus our concentration on the World Cup, Wimbledon, Nascar, and Kanye & Kim while their Sino hordes conduct a little housecleaning prior to painting CNOOC signs on every pump jack and tank battery in the Middle East.

Win, win, no?

Not if I have to know what Kanye did this week. Maybe we can give him to China as a perk.

[montanadave]

Not if I have to know what Kanye did this week. Maybe we can give him to China as a perk.

Done. Hell, I'm willing to toss in the entire Kim clan as well. Icing on the cake? The Bieber.

[Jellybean]

If the country makes the decision that our survival necessarily requires the imposition of a global "Pax Americana," are we prepared to dispense with the illusion of the United States always being the good guy and accept the consequences of being THE global superpower? For instance, let's revisit Iraq. We're not going to send the troops necessary to occupy Iraq and Syria; the American public simply won't accept what would undoubtedly be an even greater sacrifice of blood and treasure than we have already endured. But it's obvious the current situation cannot continue to deteriorate and inevitably spread. Are we prepared to shit can the notion of free elections and install a political leader who is going to toe the line while concurrently using our military might to crush opposition forces "with extreme prejudice" and heavy collateral damage?

YES!
We just need to think more like the commies....
Sure, the elections will be 'free'- anyone will be free to vote for the popular candidate, who we just so happen to be good buddies with.