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    Maybe they'll issue suppressors for these guns now.

    Can you imagine the number of soiled drawers in that building? (in our current mass shooting fad mess)
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    Title: "Officer accidentally discharges gun inside courthouse" It should read Officer negligently discharges gun inside courthouse.

    "the officer was demonstrating an AR-15 rifle in a hallway" Why ?!?!? An uncased/unholstered firearm in a courthouse? Why?

    If the officer is not fired, they should be required to complete their basic firearm training to keep their job. If they were assigned a courthouse position, they should never be allowed to work there again.
    Last edited by T2C; 06-19-14 at 12:00.
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    normally being relegated to courthouse security is either for the new guy or if you screwed up. Maybe its still safer there than patrol or in the jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    How, even as a copper, are you in a hallway of a public building with an uncased AR???

    He must have been going to an open carry rally at Applebees.
    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    Title: "Officer accidentally discharges gun inside courthouse" It should read Officer negligently discharges gun inside courthouse.

    "the officer was demonstrating an AR-15 rifle in a hallway" Why ?!?!? An uncased/unholstered firearm in a courthouse? Why?
    If the officer is not fired, they should be required to complete their basic firearm training to keep their job. If they were assigned a courthouse position, they should never be allowed to work there again.
    To the bolded part:

    I'm a Bailiff, we have a "Rapid Response Team" that is issued and trained on AR's for a possible active shooter or for during high profile cases when a hgher security presence is needed.

    So if he was working security for a high profile case, that would be a reason for an AR to be out and slung across his chest in a courthouse.

    Now, the officialese of "Demonstrating an AR-15 rifle in a hallway" just means that numb nuts was playing grab ass and ****ed up with the ND.
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    Will the Bloomberg group add this to their lost of mass shootings, like the list of 75 "school shootings" they put up? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dub View Post
    Glad nobody was injured. Negligent discharges, are just that....negligent in nature (failure to use reasonable care, resulting in damage or injury to another).

    It can happen to anyone if complacency sets in. I would suspect some time off without pay is in order.

    Only problem is if a CCW had a "negligent discharge" in a public building I doubt he'd receive the same kind of consideration. If ANYONE should know the "check and clear" mantra it should be EVERY LEO with an AR. It's what is called inexcusable IMO. I don't know that criminal charges should apply in either case, but perhaps the LEO in question should have his carbine certification revoked for a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Only problem is if a CCW had a "negligent discharge" in a public building I doubt he'd receive the same kind of consideration. If ANYONE should know the "check and clear" mantra it should be EVERY LEO with an AR. It's what is called inexcusable IMO. I don't know that criminal charges should apply in either case, but perhaps the LEO in question should have his carbine certification revoked for a year.
    Could not agree more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckman View Post
    When I was a medic with a tac team we had a LEO ND his M4 right into his foot. The physical disability aside, the shame he endured from the community was pretty tough. I would image in the Miami cop will have a large bite of a poop pie got a while.
    I'd consider that grounds for dismissal. The trail of fail to that ND says he's not fit for the job. Each incident is different (such as yours, etc) but of that happened as written, that's right up there with "Tex" Grubner like behavior.
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    Keep it about the event, and the cop. No need for board drama.
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    Wait...doesn't everyone demonstrate an AR15 in a courthouse hallway??

    On a serious note, this is a great sobering lesson for all us. I know I get rather animated when I am showing a person who knows nothing/little about a particular firearm how it works, good reminder to SLOW down and be DOUBLY safe.
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