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    Corker is a "corker".. I suspect the Haslem's are one of his major supporters..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    Not until they have it all, and you and everyone else's existence is totally dependent on them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by brickboy240 View Post
    Anyone else think it is high time for the folks of TN to put this Bob Corker character out to pasture? I fail to see how he is any different than McCain or Graham.

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    He ain't up for re-election this time. We're working on getting rid of RINO Lamar Alexander this time around.

    Corker is next.
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    And this money would go where? The general fund. The DOT would NEVER see an extra dime. If I saw in the same law that the DOT budget for road construction was going to go up the same amount they determine they would bring in, I would ALMOST be for this.

    Its like in Missouri where you pay personal property tax on your vehicles every year. I think last year I paid around $600 for my two vehicles. A grand total of I think it was $12(might have been $18) went to the road system, the rest went to schools and a bunch of other bull shit. Sorry, my personal property tax for my car should go to the road system.

    I see this tax doing the same thing. We pay an extra 12c per gallon and the DOT gets a fraction of a cent of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    And this money would go where? The general fund. The DOT would NEVER see an extra dime. If I saw in the same law that the DOT budget for road construction was going to go up the same amount they determine they would bring in, I would ALMOST be for this.

    Its like in Missouri where you pay personal property tax on your vehicles every year. I think last year I paid around $600 for my two vehicles. A grand total of I think it was $12(might have been $18) went to the road system, the rest went to schools and a bunch of other bull shit. Sorry, my personal property tax for my car should go to the road system.

    I see this tax doing the same thing. We pay an extra 12c per gallon and the DOT gets a fraction of a cent of that.
    C'mon man, there's inner-city night basketball (with free snack) that needs to be payed for. Get with the program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    And this money would go where? The general fund. The DOT would NEVER see an extra dime. If I saw in the same law that the DOT budget for road construction was going to go up the same amount they determine they would bring in, I would ALMOST be for this.

    Its like in Missouri where you pay personal property tax on your vehicles every year. I think last year I paid around $600 for my two vehicles. A grand total of I think it was $12(might have been $18) went to the road system, the rest went to schools and a bunch of other bull shit. Sorry, my personal property tax for my car should go to the road system.

    I see this tax doing the same thing. We pay an extra 12c per gallon and the DOT gets a fraction of a cent of that.

    Ours is about $60 a year.


    But if we let all the vehicle based fees and taxes only go towards roads they'd actually have to justify why we have such shitty roads in the US and why most road systems have never been expanded to meet the current population.

    Then we get stuck with toll roads we paid to build then get to pay daily to drive on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interfan View Post
    Why not make revenue from permits and leases for oil drilling on public lands? If they want to make revenue from petroleum, why not do it in a way that creates jobs? I guess that makes too much sense for DC.
    Plenty of jobs down here for those who want to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr blasty View Post
    Oil companies aren't stupid. Every time they get nailed with another mountain of fees they cut drilling and fracks till the heat goes away. There's already enough fees, taxes, rules, regulations etc... The gov. just needs to learn to get by on the billions they already rape people for. I used to be a tenth as bad as uncle sugar with money before my wife taught me better spending habits and my life went into the gutter. After my experience with overspending I honestly don't know how the government can even still exists. There's only a hundred theories available that would improve our economic situation and the government ignores every single one of them.

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    I don't mean additional fees, taxes, or costs, just allowing the oil companies to purchase permits and leases to drill on public land. This isn't an easy process now.

    As far as lessons on overspending, you wouldn't have learned yours if you could print your own money. That is the problem with fiat currency and unrestrained ideological spending.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet432 View Post
    Plenty of jobs down here for those who want to work.
    There are in North Dakota, too. In North Dakota, there is 1% unemployment and higher wages are the norm due to demand for workers. Oil fields employ people, as does all the ancillary industries around it, and the service providers, retailers, etc. that cater to the workers. Anecdotally, a Walmart cashier starts at $17.50/hr in Fargo. For a country with a shrunken workforce, this is something that would certainly help more than a tax increase.
    Last edited by interfan; 06-19-14 at 23:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    Ours is about $60 a year.


    But if we let all the vehicle based fees and taxes only go towards roads they'd actually have to justify why we have such shitty roads in the US and why most road systems have never been expanded to meet the current population.

    Then we get stuck with toll roads we paid to build then get to pay daily to drive on.
    OH WE THEN PAY AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THE PLATES.

    So we pay personal property tax on the vehicles then pay another 30-70 bucks(depending on what vehicle you have like a truck over 12.5k is more, 2 door little car is less, etc...) to get your plates. We pay tax to the county and the plate fee to the Missouri Department of Revenue. Its a big circle jerk. But we dont have a single toll road(although I am 100% sure its been tried over and over and over again).

    BUT our real estate tax is fairly low. It varies but I believe the average across the state is .98%. They value personal property at 19% of the fair market value which is 5-33% of the actual cash value. No frickin clue how they came up with that formula or how they determine the fair market value.

    They get you one way or another. My friends in TX cant believe we pay tax on our vehicles every year, but when I ask them what they pay for their real estate tax I still come out ahead.

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    Believe me, Tennesseans are not currently happy with Either of their Senators...but Lamar is the main effort at the moment. Corker's time is coming...
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