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    Quote Originally Posted by brickboy240 View Post
    Yeah I guess that is one good use for the thing. A Colt upper on it might be a decent shooter.

    Also, cleaned up, the thing could yield a grand or more after the net Sandy Hook or Hillary's election.

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    Complaints with the gun at this point:

    Commercial buffer tube and a stock that is loose/rattles on the tube.

    No "M4" feedramp cuts.

    1x9 twist.

    No "F" marked front sight base.

    Carrier key screws are well staked. Stock castle nut is not but the stock is straight and the nut's tight. Headspace is fine and the extractor has good cat claws on the edges. Gas rings appear fine and are tight in the carrier.

    Were I to take this rifle seriously, I would buy an LMT basic or BCM blem barreled upper to replace the factory part. I would also stick on a milspec tube and BCM M4 stock. I would then sell the DPMS upper for something like $200. Heck, I might do this stuff anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Complaints with the gun at this point:

    Commercial buffer tube and a stock that is loose/rattles on the tube.

    No "M4" feedramp cuts.

    1x9 twist.

    No "F" marked front sight base.

    Carrier key screws are well staked. Stock castle nut is not but the stock is straight and the nut's tight. Headspace is fine and the extractor has good cat claws on the edges. Gas rings appear fine and are tight in the carrier.

    Were I to take this rifle seriously, I would buy an LMT basic or BCM blem barreled upper to replace the factory part. I would also stick on a milspec tube and BCM M4 stock. I would then sell the DPMS upper for something like $200. Heck, I might do this stuff anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Honestly, is it worth sinking a lot of money into?
    No, not really. If the gun shoots and functions fine as-is, I probably won't do a thing to it other than add an M203/side mounted front sling swivel.

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    Last edited by Tokarev; 06-20-14 at 13:25.
    “The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big A View Post
    Hell, clean it up and rattle can it and he could probably flip it for a tidy profit to someone that doesn't know any better right now.
    Better to just hit it with some desert tan out of a rattle can and sell it as a Mosul rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Only issue I see is WASR-10 are a legally importable configuration, the DPMS AR is not. I understand where you are going with the "temporary status" (it's as if they never actually left the states) but my doubt meter is pinging hard.
    Actually no, the WASRs were originally imported in usual configuration (single stack magwell etc), brought to 922R compliance, and then sent overseas on a temporary export. A WASR, once converted, doesn't meet standard importation requirements, exactly like DPMS ARs. Lots of pictures of Ugandans with black American pistol grips etc, parts that one generally doesn't see outside of the US.

    Interesting part about the WASRs is that some have signs of being artificially distressed prior to being sent overseas (there are some plausible reasons for this but it's all speculation).
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    Isn't the issue with importability dependent on the number of US-made parts on the gun?

    I would think that since the DPMS is all US-made, then it could be imported even with all the naughty bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_M View Post
    Actually no, the WASRs were originally imported in usual configuration (single stack magwell etc), brought to 922R compliance, and then sent overseas on a temporary export. A WASR, once converted, doesn't meet standard importation requirements, exactly like DPMS ARs. Lots of pictures of Ugandans with black American pistol grips etc, parts that one generally doesn't see outside of the US.

    Interesting part about the WASRs is that some have signs of being artificially distressed prior to being sent overseas (there are some plausible reasons for this but it's all speculation).
    I completely missed the part that we were talking about WASR 10s that came to the US then went to the Middle East and then came back again.

    I just have to wonder why anyone in Uganda would pay anything for a WASR 10 with all the genuine AKs floating around that part of the world for half the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I completely missed the part that we were talking about WASR 10s that came to the US then went to the Middle East and then came back again.

    I just have to wonder why anyone in Uganda would pay anything for a WASR 10 with all the genuine AKs floating around that part of the world for half the price.
    The Ugandans didn't pay for them. They were merely contractors being employed by a US firm. One reason you'd buy WASRs and bring them over is quality control (yeah, I know that sounds funny when we're talking WASRs). You know it's new production and all parts are going to be [relatively] in-spec and functional. The amount of time and effort required to go over the details of an unknown quantity Kalashnikov multiplied by XYZ can be huge.

    Furthermore there's a possibility that you'd be supplying the enemy with cash for goods with in-country procurement (there have been legal inquiries into exactly that, especially before temporary export rules were ironed out).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_M View Post
    The amount of time and effort required to go over the details of an unknown quantity Kalashnikov multiplied by XYZ can be huge.
    That actually makes quite a bit of sense.
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