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    But justin what weapons M4s ? Colt ,dd,KAC,HK. What gear. Be more specific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leibermuster View Post
    But justin what weapons M4s ? Colt ,dd,KAC,HK. What gear. Be more specific.
    I know where you're going here, and all you're going to say is, "HK has solved the corrosion problem with their super secret corrosion resistant materials technologies (which I'm privy to but which I refuse to discuss in public)." Buzz off. You're a charlatan.

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    None. Buy a LWRC M6IC if you want a piston in an AR Plateform. Otherwise buy a SCAR 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingSun View Post
    None. Buy a LWRC M6IC if you want a piston in an AR Plateform. Otherwise buy a SCAR 16.
    Lwrc takes distant 3rd if not even 4th to hk and pws.
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    It really depends on what you are going how you are going to use the platforms’.
    Personal Defense and Combat Rifle, the Commercial HK MR556 has lots of draw backs.

    1.) The barrel non chrome lined,
    2.) The take down pins are retarded; you need to be able to shotgun a combat weapon.
    3.) Upper Receiver Group including BCG prohibits you from firing in FA if you ever want to attach it to a registered lower.

    The HK MR556 is fine for a precision rifle, but why do a Piston system? If you want precision, DI is more accurate. The best attributes Piston Driven AR’s have is the ease of cleaning and less wear on certain operating parts. The German version is fine, it has all the features above, but I'm not paying that price for a Piston AR.

    In all fairness LWRC system is better.

    1.) Easier to get to the Piston for maintenance and cleaning. HK you have to completely take of the rail to get to the piston.
    2.) Lower Receiver is fully ambidextrous. HK lower is not.
    3.) Barrels are NiCorr treated.
    4.) The Upper is compatible with FA Registered Lowers.
    5.) As a lot of part commonality with DI operating groups.

    PWS has incorporated some of LWRC concepts, but the I not a huge fan of long stroke gas systems and the operating system looks cumbersome. If you want a AK type bolt carrier group in a 556 combat weapon buy a FN SCAR 16.

    That’s my take…

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    "HK has solved the corrosion problem with their super secret corrosion resistant materials technologies
    No, HK did not. Aubert&Duval did (they are sole supplier of steel and alu alloys for HK). Modern high performance alloys went well beyond 100yo "stainless steel" (as high Cr material is it rather poorly suited for long life barrels). Steel that HK uses on their barrels, is special recipe made by A&D exclusively for HK and derived from alloys used in cannon barrels. My bet is that it is variant of GKH or GH4W alloys, as those are great for cold hammer forging.

    Here is leaflet on Defense products from A&D: http://www.aubertduval.com/fileadmin..._Mars_2010.pdf.

    Going back to HK barrels (both pistol and rifle ones) advantages - they are very accurate for mass produced barrels and usually live much longer than similar barrels from other manufacturers. It does not mean that it happen for HK to turn out barrel that craps out relatively fast - happened to 2 my friends on their MR223 rifles. Luckily HK gives 10.000 rounds warranty on "no loss of accuracy". One had barrel replaced, second is in process to get his replaced.
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    Dude bought a PWS on page 1 and this is still going? Color me puzzled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    No, HK did not. Aubert&Duval did...
    Go back and read my comments. I said nothing of the sort. I was replying to another individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    Go back and read my comments. I said nothing of the sort. I was replying to another individual.
    You have clearly demonstrated a disfigured view of things in regards to HK and historical precedence this shows yourself as an egotistically driven individual. You don't answer direct question but answer with insults and an emotionally based response.

    "No sense makes sense to you "

    Carry on.


    As far as HK 416 system the results I have seen an obtained with this series of rifles is phenomenal. Are there other DI guns I love to shoot and I own ....yes. SR15 is one of them. Noveske too , and many other AR based rifle companies too.

    I find many people tend to have there own dog in this fight and there reasons are highly questionable. H&k fanboism or anything like that is not my cup of tea. I buy guns for real use first and everything else is secondary. HK is for real use and it fits my needs.

    So many companies on here just imitate companies like KAC and HK for example. Whatever that saying is definitely fits the bill here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leibermuster View Post
    You have clearly demonstrated a disfigured view of things in regards to HK and historical precedence this shows yourself as an egotistically driven individual
    Disfigured how?

    You don't answer direct question but answer with insults and an emotionally based response.
    As you said, "Some people are in the know and most never will be." That's cool and all, but I'm in the military and know that generally people who are "in the know" don't go blabbering around on internet forums and usually don't tell anybody that they're "in the know" on anything. If they do so, it raises a huge red flag. Right now, your red flag is flying high.

    Please tell us what your position is that puts you "in the know" with HK.

    Otherwise, I stand by my comments about you.

    P.S. Please go into more detail about this "historical precedence" thing. Because, well...
    Last edited by justin_247; 09-25-14 at 23:35.

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