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Last edited by SiGfever; 06-22-14 at 20:13.
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington
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Why go Spikes?
Here are two lightweight budget options that you wont have to worry if corners were cut.
COLT AR 6720: $962
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ction&key=6720
Aimpoint H1/DD micro mount combo: $596
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ion&key=APH1DD
Total = $1558
OR
BCM complete blem lower: $308
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...y=LWR-BCM-BLEM
Magpul CTR: $60
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...action&key=CTR
BCM upper, 13" keymod rail, 14.5" ELW-F w/ pinned mod1 comp: $739
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...IDELWF-13-MOD1
BCM M16 BCG: $163
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=BCG-BCM
BCM Gunfighter charging handle mod 4: $44
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...n&key=GFCH-BCM
Total $1311
w/ H1/DD combo = $1907
OP, you've made the mistake of using the words "light weight" in the middle of the latest AR15 fashion craze, which is building the lightest weight AR one can. Many folks here are obsessed with light weight, at the expense of everything else. So, you are getting TONS of bad suggestions. Simply put, your timing couldn't be worse for asking your specific question.
I would first suggest that light weight is less important than you think it is, and lowered recoil impulse and muzzle flash/blast/concussion is more important than you think it is. Especially if you shoot indoors.
Anyways, BCM makes mid-length ARs that are really soft shooting, so that's the company I would suggest you look at. To minimize flash/blast/concussion, stick with a standard A2 muzzle device, or possibly BCM's Gunfighter comp, and a barrel at least 16" long. A light weight barrel doesn't save as much weight as a light weight rail system, like a KMR rail system.
I would suggest one of these; http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=750-780
It's light, very soft shooting, has a nice trigger, a nice grip, nice stock, a light weight rail system, and all it needs is an optic of some sort. And it's going to be BCM quality, with the backing of a great company.
Last edited by M&P15T; 06-27-14 at 11:41.
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To the OP, don't ever bring up Spikes Tactical as an option. It's like starting a caliber war. Or polymer vs metal. Ford vs Chevy. Never mind that it will meet your needs at a good price. Never mind that all you have to do is switch out the ST-T2 buffer for a H Buffer, and like magic you'll be "Mil-Spec". And you'll still be able to get a rifle and a case of ammo for under a $1100.
I'm not denying that the owner of Spikes has some questionable business practices. And they do make some products that are highly questionable and downright dumb (eg. their lightweight BCG and Flare launcher) And yet somehow that equates them to being bottom tier? When they stick to known quality builds and materials they provide an outstanding product like their LE line of ARs. Every Spikes LE rifle I've seen has been on par (materials, staking, finish and otherwise) with the holy trinity of AR manufacturers.
Back to the topic. At one time I thought of chasing the elusive lightweight AR but after weighing my rifle I figured good enough. I put together a basic rifle. It weighs 7 pounds even when empty. I used a Spikes Mid-length Enhanced Optimum profiled CHF Barrel upper on a forged Rainier Arms Lower, 13 in. Troy Alpha Rail, Vltor A5 RE System, Colt/Rogers Super stock, and a Grey Ghost Gear sling. I'm only running Daniel Defense irons for now. The only way to make it substantially lighter is to change out the handguard. But even then, I would rather put the money towards a quality red dot. Even after 2 years, thousands of rounds and with minimal cleaning, I've yet to have a malfunction.
I really think that the Colt 6720 is the better choice if you believe in resale value. Other than switching out the somewhat unproven ST-T2 buffer, I think the lightweight Spikes would give you more bang for your buck while at the same time giving you years of reliable service.
These days I like light everything. Thought about building up a rifle, then learned about the 6720 which I could get for about a grand. Everything I wanted, nothing I didn't, and a factory warranty--plus excellent resale value, The only changes I made were a Geissele G2S and an optic (TA-33 ACOG). Hard to see how I could have done better.
Tomac, first off best of luck to your wife. My wife (5'2" not that it matters) enjoys my 16", 12.5" SBR, and 7.5" SB pistol (w/ troy claymore) and can handle them well/ok (I should mention her instructor sucks). She's still digging her teeth in the AR platform, so she hasn't really come into her own style yet. Not sure if that helps. So no matter which AR route you go I'm pretty sure as long as you use a quality company you'll be GTG.
Secondly, how's wife's pistol situation? I always try and push pistol training with wife, as I think it's more likely the platform she'll be using in real life situation. Plus pistols are as lightweight as they come. Maybe could even take her to IDPA or similar gun games. Regardless it's the time spent with you she'll probably enjoy the most. Best of luck and be safe.
Last edited by lunchbox; 07-04-14 at 03:12.
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