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Thread: Buying factory SBR and later swapping uppers, is this legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd00000 View Post
    So if you gave the overall length with a 14.5 inch barrel when you filled the form out, you could later put an 11.5 barrel on that lower?
    Once you have the stamp proving that the tax is paid on the lower as an SBR, you can put any length barrel/upper you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is a text of the law in section 1 of RCW 9.41.190 it states a person may not manufacture, possess, blah, blah, blah an SBR, MG, etc... Below is the text now added to the RCW. So it would appear on it's face, that the law was poorly crafted and an individual may not manufacture an SBR.

    (2) It is not unlawful for a person to possess, transport, acquire, or transfer a short-barreled rifle that is legally registered and possessed, transported, acquired, or transferred in accordance with federal law.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...re/5956.PL.pdf
    There are basically two camps. One that states what you did that a person cannon manufacturer.

    The other camp is that individuals never manufacturer SBRs, but only make them. The ATF defines manufacturing as in the business of selling complete rifles and the Washington State never clearly defines manufacturer in the state laws concerning firearms. Since we have one federal definition, it is what I am going by. I submitted my form 1 a few weeks ago right before eForms went back online.
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    Well it will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by nimdabew View Post
    There are basically two camps. One that states what you did that a person cannon manufacturer.

    The other camp is that individuals never manufacturer SBRs, but only make them. The ATF defines manufacturing as in the business of selling complete rifles and the Washington State never clearly defines manufacturer in the state laws concerning firearms. Since we have one federal definition, it is what I am going by. I submitted my form 1 a few weeks ago right before eForms went back online.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Well it will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Good luck.
    I will know if it works in about 9 months.
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    Thanks again guys.

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    Someone just reported that they E-filed a Form 1 and it was approved. Approx. 4 months wait.



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    Interesting...they filed a form 1 or 4?

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    Form 1s are actually running ~35-40 days for those that filed after the system came back up. Form 4s don't look like they'll be added until at least early 2015.

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    Thats such BS. I should just cancel my paper form 1 and efile tonight.,
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    You're only asked to notify the ATF with permanent changes, I.e., selling your 10.5" and going to 14.5" only.

    Temporary changes are fine.

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