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    That's nothing I got a friend that thinks by letting someone robbing you kill you, you save their life.

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    A 'friend'?? I'm SURE you can depend on him.

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    An armed robber will ALWAYS spare your life if you cooperate, right...?

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    My wallet contains very valuable tin, id much rather give you lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriviaMonster View Post
    This isn't just criminals who think this. Had a very liberal college professor who raised the same question, if you hit the man robbing you he dies or is his life worth more than your wallet? This is what they teach our malleable minds...

    I can cancel my cards in a couple minutes no problem, but my wallet is pretty nice. I chose my wallet and I'll vote with my CCW.
    I would say, no, his life is not worth my wallet. No law abiding, level headed gun owner is going to resort to deadly force right off the bat. What I would do is push him away and defend myself by non-lethal means. If that wasn't possible or didn't work, I'd pull my gun and warn him to back off. If he ran, I call the police, tell them what happened, and move on with my day. If pulling my gun didn't work and he still came after me, at this point it's no longer about my wallet. If he's coming after a man with a gun, it shows he's willing to risk his life, which means he's probably willing to take a life. It's now about my safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    I would say, no, his life is not worth my wallet. No law abiding, level headed gun owner is going to resort to deadly force right off the bat. What I would do is push him away and defend myself by non-lethal means. If that wasn't possible or didn't work, I'd pull my gun and warn him to back off. If he ran, I call the police, tell them what happened, and move on with my day. If pulling my gun didn't work and he still came after me, at this point it's no longer about my wallet. If he's coming after a man with a gun, it shows he's willing to risk his life, which means he's probably willing to take a life. It's now about my safety.
    Very well said and very level headed decisions. You must be a liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    It's a sense of entitlement in the ghetto. They literally, literally believe that they should be allowed to do everything they want, up to and including murder, and nobody should be allowed to stop them. They believe that the gangster life is a legitimate one and that this is the proper way to behave: mercilessly gun down anyone wearing rival gang colors, whether those colors are blue, red, black and yellow, or navy blue with a badge.
    Funny you should say that, wouldn't be the first time I heard a gang banger type express the opinion that law enforcement is "just another gang" and truly believe it. I have actually heard ghetto types express the opinion that law enforcement "needs to respect THEIR turf" and do their jobs accordingly as if they are meter readers who ghetto residents permit to do their jobs so long as they don't "be disrespecting" anyone.

    With my own eyes I've seen drug dealers and gang members caught in the commission of crimes during a sting or raid and family members and neighbors loudly complain "they can't just be coming up here and doing that" with regard to arresting criminals caught in the act.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    I would say, no, his life is not worth my wallet. No law abiding, level headed gun owner is going to resort to deadly force right off the bat. What I would do is push him away and defend myself by non-lethal means. If that wasn't possible or didn't work, I'd pull my gun and warn him to back off. If he ran, I call the police, tell them what happened, and move on with my day. If pulling my gun didn't work and he still came after me, at this point it's no longer about my wallet. If he's coming after a man with a gun, it shows he's willing to risk his life, which means he's probably willing to take a life. It's now about my safety.
    Ummm, if he has a gun we are going DIRECTLY to deadly force at the first opportunity. If he has a knife or is similarly armed with some kind of weapon we are going DIRECTLY to deadly force right NOW. If he is big enough to qualify for disparity of force, we are moving DIRECTLY to deadly force and he has a really THIN window of opportunity to deescalate the entire matter. And if he is not armed, and does not present a threat of significant injury or death he is still going to have a really bad day even though it might not include deadly force.

    It has NOTHING to do with my wallet, it has EVERYTHING to do with the THREAT he is presenting to me. As the wise person once said "I don't trust my well being to the good intentions of bad people."
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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