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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Beating someone because they are gay, black, Hispanic, Christian, whatever. That is a hate crime arnd should be treated as such. This is just graffiti.
    NO. NO NO NO NO NO.

    Beating someone is a crime. The justification the beater uses in his mind to make him want to do something is irrelevant. Someone who is beaten for his wallet is just a beaten as someone beaten because he is the wrong color. Assault is the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadbag View Post
    "Hate Crime" is one step towards tyranny. Phoniest "crime" there is.

    Long time, no see. Glad to see ya posting again. And ironically I think the last country with "thought crimes" was Imperial Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Beating someone because they are gay, black, Hispanic, Christian, whatever. That is a hate crime arnd should be treated as such. This is just graffiti.
    Do you honestly believe there is any degree of difference between assaulting somebody because they are [insert random race here] and assaulting them because a person is simply indifferent to another person and is willing to assault them for personal gain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadbag View Post
    NO. NO NO NO NO NO.

    Beating someone is a crime. The justification the beater uses in his mind to make him want to do something is irrelevant. Someone who is beaten for his wallet is just a beaten as someone beaten because he is the wrong color. Assault is the crime.
    Complete agreement. When a black man is in the ICU and he finds out he wasn't beaten because of racial hatred, it's not going to make him feel any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Long time, no see. Glad to see ya posting again. And ironically I think the last country with "thought crimes" was Imperial Japan.
    I may or may not be able to stick around a lot, at the moment, but I try and stick my head in when I can. I've lurked a bunch off and on over the last year. Been working for a startup the last 13 months and been very busy between that, kids' school, and other things that take 200% of my time.

    Besides the US, which has resurrected "thought crimes", I would think plenty of other more recent places have similar bogus things. Soviet Union is probably in the list?

    Anyway, "hate crime" is phony and is as I said, just another step towards tyranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Beating someone because they are gay, black, Hispanic, Christian, whatever. That is a hate crime arnd should be treated as such.
    If only this was true concerning cases where the victims are white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadbag View Post
    I may or may not be able to stick around a lot, at the moment, but I try and stick my head in when I can. I've lurked a bunch off and on over the last year. Been working for a startup the last 13 months and been very busy between that, kids' school, and other things that take 200% of my time.
    Good to see you posting chadbag!
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    Quote Originally Posted by platoonDaddy View Post
    Talk about Thought Police, hopefully this commander isn't speaking for all MDSP Barracks!

    “No illeagles [sic] here. No undocumented Democrats,” the graffiti said in capital letters, according to the Carroll County Times (county in Maryland).

    Lt. Patrick McCrory, commander of the state police Westminster barracks, said the message likely went up Saturday night or early Sunday. He said he considered the message to be a hate crime.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-democrats-gr/

    Located a segment on Fox News from the County Commissioner of Carroll County: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=6Niyrqjtbgk
    I wonder what color Lt. McCory's skin is? He assumed who ever spayed that message was white. Glad he knows so much about the perps already . . . its really amazing.
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    If I hate hate crimes, is that a hate crime? Conversely if I don't hate, but disagree, is that a "disagree" crime? And if they are both "thought crimes" then if I should pummel someone's mind just with my thoughts would they have to show a bruised brain to prove I've assaulted them?


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    [QUOTE=chadbag;1951158]NO. NO NO NO NO NO.

    Beating someone is a crime. The justification the beater uses in his mind to make him want to do something is irrelevant. Someone who is beaten for his wallet is just a beaten as someone beaten because he is the wrong color. Assault is the crime

    DAMN RIGHT. Im SICK of elevating the criminal status of a crime just because of the race or religion or whatever of the victim.
    More PC BULLSHIT we've been indoctrinated with.
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    Remember the Lord, for He is GREAT & TERRIBLE!
    FIGHT for your bretheren..for your sons & for your daughters,
    for your wives & for your households"!

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