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Thread: Obama Nominates 1st NON-PILOT to Command Air Force in Pacific (BTW it's a Woman)

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    Anything but another white heterosexual male . . .
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


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    Old news kind of stuff.

    The "Surgeon General" of the Army is a Nurse.

    I suspect in less than ten years a female CA officer will command SOCOM.

    Put fighter pilots and SF types under the direct command of those not their peers and they tend to bail.

    Even within groups, many high quality types already tend to bail because over the course of 20 years the highest quality guy in a year group will be lucky if he is two years advanced vs. the totally mediocre/average guy in his year group.

    For some reason,
    backseaters, nurses/msc types, and non-SOF types in the past understood they would not be in charge of pilots, physicians, and SOF.


    Now they are,
    and think they should be.

    Although even in regular non-military circles there seems to be at least as much of the mediocre management thinking the high talent producers need their management, and that the management should not come from the high talent group.

    Social engineering helped by government or just a natural progression of the "you ain't no better'n me/I'm entitled" environment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    Social engineering . . .
    Nailed it.
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


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    I'll just toss out her bio for anyone who wants to continue to express their outrage without at least knowing what she's done...

    http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographie...-robinson.aspx

    I mean, if it's ALL about Obama's social engineering of the military, how come she got selected for Colonel and Brigadier General while under Bush 43?
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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    Woof, woof.

    This discussion is ALL about the nominee being a woman and has ZERO to do with her not being a pilot. If the nominee was a man, it wouldn't even be news.

    A couple of members have actually known the officer in question or bothered to examine her service record. The rest are just raggin' on women and social engineering and the various and sundry delusions of fevered minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montanadave View Post
    Woof, woof.

    This discussion is ALL about the nominee being a woman and has ZERO to do with her not being a pilot. If the nominee was a man, it wouldn't even be news.

    A couple of members have actually known the officer in question or bothered to examine her service record. The rest are just raggin' on women and social engineering and the various and sundry delusions of fevered minds.
    But-but-but... Obama! And liberals. And white devils. And stuff. And Obama can't do anything right. Like, at all. Not even when he does it right. EVER. If the clock says that it's 4:30 and Obama says that the clock says that it's 4:30, Obama has to be wrong, the clock can't possibly say 4:30....

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    The White House doesn't choose those commands. You guys know there are selection boards and committees? The WH isn't picking these posts.

    From my dealings with the AF not a single one had to do with being a pilot. You guys realize the AF is WAY more than planes? My first direct contact was way back in AIT in 2003 at Ft Gordon.

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    The head of the FAA at one time (might still be) a woman who wasn't a pilot. She was nicknamed "the penguin".
    -VERITAS VINCIT-

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo2304 View Post
    She was nicknamed "the penguin".
    That's crazy. Why would they make a nun the head of the FAA?

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    I could not care less if a woman holds that post. But when you starting setting a new/different standard, i.e., the first non-pilot to hold the command, there is a reason for that. Is she just that damn good an officer? Does she have other, tangible skills? Or was it a promotion that she was going to get because she is a woman and they decided that it no longer mattered that the CinC or whatever was a pilot?

    As for the WH choosing these commands...of course they don't 'choose', but they certainly have significant input in commands that require stars.

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