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Thread: How Eisenhower Solved Illegal Border Crossings From Mexico!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    There is no money to be made by solving problems.

    Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.
    Bingo. This is a lost battle at the federal level. The corruption there is pretty rampant if you haven't guessed it. The fed will NEVER do anything about the issue because it is a HUGE boom to their economy and power base. This issue will have to be resolved at the state level; although it will be difficult at that level cause the corruption is pretty rampant at this level as well.

    Let the sates shouldn't be defending the border and the Fed will go after the states again for trying to do so. IMO if the states wanted to stop the damage then they need to pass and/or enforce laws that make it difficult for illegals to receive benefits. No schools, not welfare, no housing, non medical and no jobs. Rabidly go after not only the illegals, but also those who provide them services. May not stop all the illegals from coming, but they wouldn't have motive to stay in a particular state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals.

    General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal.
    Today there would be no one in Congress who wouldn't be disqualified on ethical grounds or conflicts of interest to sitting on a special commission on ethics. There is no presidential candidate who could say "Amen" to that without a lawsuit or accusations by the ACLU or CAIR either. It should be getting close to tar and feathering season...

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    Let the sates shouldn't be defending the border and the Fed will go after the states again for trying to do so. IMO if the states wanted to stop the damage then they need to pass and/or enforce laws that make it difficult for illegals to receive benefits. No schools, not welfare, no housing, non medical and no jobs. Rabidly go after not only the illegals, but also those who provide them services. May not stop all the illegals from coming, but they wouldn't have motive to stay in a particular state.
    The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...ization-border
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....
    Apparently autocorrect decided that what I was typing wasn't what I meant to type. That first sentence should read the states shouldn't be....

    I agree with you to some extent, but I don't think this will cause any hub bub. Only the racist border states are concerned by the issue. Till something dramatic happens as a result of this incompetence people will just keep watching the kardshians and remain oblivious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    Apparently autocorrect decided that what I was typing wasn't what I meant to type. That first sentence should read the states shouldn't be....

    I agree with you to some extent, but I don't think this will cause any hub bub. Only the racist border states are concerned by the issue. Till something dramatic happens as a result of this incompetence people will just keep watching the kardshians and remain oblivious.
    Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....
    Spot on.

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    HOT DAMN Denali...IM WRITING YOUR ASS IN ON THE BALLOT!!
    I HOPE the pot is about to boil over...its PAST TIME. NOT for a lawless, Godless, aimless insurrection...but for a RESTORATION of Constitutional law and personal & religious liberties.
    Although I am NOT advocating this here in this forum, not the time nor place, I know of no other time or place in history where this was accomplished without bloodshed and violence. If someone here does, please educate me.
    Jeffersons "The Tree of Liberty"...quote comes to my mind, daily.
    Once people finally recognize & accept that the Government of the United States of America is 100% un-Constitutional..100% out of touch with reality in ANY measurable form or fashion..that it IS in fact..done, over, through, finite, the better off and sooner we can all take steps needed to restore it back to at least a semblance of what its supposed to be.
    " Be NOT ye afraid of them..
    Remember the Lord, for He is GREAT & TERRIBLE!
    FIGHT for your bretheren..for your sons & for your daughters,
    for your wives & for your households"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    There is no money to be made by solving problems.

    Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.
    An observation so undeniably correct it will find it's way into every political discussion I have from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....
    Dick Morris did say the US will become almost unrecognizable by O's second term.

    Right is now wrong, and wrong is now right... and so many intellectuals on the left can explain why this is a good thing.

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