FBI wants 9mm handguns

[jondoe297]

We were having issues with the pins that are visible just above the trigger.

Edited to add: I had to look up the parts: locking block pin and trigger pin were the ones that we had to inspect. I believe it was the locking block pin that I saw break most.

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

[platoonDaddy]

Just called one of the F/A instructors and he verified it was the locking block pin that was the vast majority of the failures noted.

Glocks? If so, G22 or G23?

Dang, never heard of a locking block pin cracking.

Edit: great info, thanks for sharing.

[rocsteady]

I saw mostly on the 22 with the "new" 180 grain winchester round

[platoonDaddy]

I saw mostly on the 22 with the "new" 180 grain winchester round

Dang, that is very interesting.

Again thank you for your observation and experience.

[rocsteady]

Just as an update, I'm taking our "officer survival school" this week and noticed that the firearms guys at West Point have gone through their stock of the Speer Gold Dots in 165 grain that we've had around for years and have been issuing the same but in 180 grain now. Said that they've had it for about a year now.

Interesting move, I didnt think to ask if it's as hot a load as the Winchesters that were causing us the issues previously.

[ggammell]

Here's a thread I started about six months ago when I had several parts in my G23 break. Locking block pin was one of them.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...you&highlight=

[platoonDaddy]

UPDATE: There have been some questions about the origin of this FBI statement. As the word of the FBI’s solicitation for 9mm handguns became public, they were hit with a flood of questions from state and local agencies, many who carry .40, about the change. This statement was prepared the FBI Training Division to answer those questions and was intended for dissemination to law enforcement agencies. It was not classified Law Enforcement Sensitive and has spread to civilians. I have confirmed its origin and feel that its release poses no threat to law enforcement while providing enlightening science, paid for by taxpayer dollars, to the public.

remainder of the article: http://loadoutroom.com/12077/fbi-goi...comes-science/

[Digital_Damage]

Here's a thread I started about six months ago when I had several parts in my G23 break. Locking block pin was one of them.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...you&highlight=

I had the trigger pin and locking block break. Replaced them with zev and have not had the issue since.

[C-grunt]

UPDATE: There have been some questions about the origin of this FBI statement. As the word of the FBI’s solicitation for 9mm handguns became public, they were hit with a flood of questions from state and local agencies, many who carry .40, about the change. This statement was prepared the FBI Training Division to answer those questions and was intended for dissemination to law enforcement agencies. It was not classified Law Enforcement Sensitive and has spread to civilians. I have confirmed its origin and feel that its release poses no threat to law enforcement while providing enlightening science, paid for by taxpayer dollars, to the public.

remainder of the article: http://loadoutroom.com/12077/fbi-goi...comes-science/

I recently switched to a Glock 17 for my duty weapon. Prior to that was a Glock 21c and a Glock 22. I find I shoot the 9mm noticeably better than the 40 or 45. While in rifle training we were doing movement transition drills at night. Switching shoulders on the move and transitioning to handgun. I didnt have a weapon mounted light on my handgun so I had to fire it one handed while my weak hand was holding my rifle and using its light. I was pleasantly surprised that I not only had 100 percent hit ratio but that they were all solid vital zone hits as well.

[platoonDaddy]

I recently switched to a Glock 17 for my duty weapon. Prior to that was a Glock 21c and a Glock 22. I find I shoot the 9mm noticeably better than the 40 or 45. While in rifle training we were doing movement transition drills at night. Switching shoulders on the move and transitioning to handgun. I didnt have a weapon mounted light on my handgun so I had to fire it one handed while my weak hand was holding my rifle and using its light. I was pleasantly surprised that I not only had 100 percent hit ratio but that they were all solid vital zone hits as well.

I am Visualizing you shooting G17 while holding rifle in weak-hand to shine light and scoring hits in the vital zone. For sure that is some awesoming shooting.