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    So If We Are Being Completely Objective...Is Obama The Worst President In History...?

    I think he passed the Carter level of incompetence while still in his first term (no easy thing), but I'm still not sure if he is as bad as LBJ yet.

    We have to consider context such as how damaging the President was during his term in office. For example FDR laid much of the groundwork for LBJ to destroy the country but probably didn't do as much actual damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think he passed the Carter level of incompetence while still in his first term (no easy thing), but I'm still not sure if he is as bad as LBJ yet.

    We have to consider context such as how damaging the President was during his term in office. For example FDR laid much of the groundwork for LBJ to destroy the country but probably didn't do as much actual damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So If We Are Being Completely Objective...Is Obama The Worst President In History...?
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    He is one of the worst. Followed closely by GWB and Carter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    He is one of the worst. Followed closely by GWB and Carter.
    It's not the incompetency - he's DANGEROUS because he's on a mission to 'transform' America...and it doesn't appear there's much he's not afraid to try....
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    I still think LBJ and Nixon were worse. Obama is basically Carter in my estimation.
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    He is even worse than James Buchanan; yes, he is the worst ever. Why? Because he's destroying America on purpose and not through mere incompetence, like Buchanan. Having Obama as president is no different than having a foreign, enemy occupier running our country. What would a foreign, enemy occupier do differently? Not a damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    He is one of the worst. Followed closely by GWB and Carter.
    Clinton was WAY worse than GWB. Bush wasn't great, but Clinton had the assault weapons ban, Black Hawk Down, Waco, Kosovo, Whitewater, failing to go after al-Qaeda even after repeated attacks, and the Lewinsky scandal to his name. The world hated us during Bush's administration, but they hated and laughed at us during the Clinton years. Now, again the world laughs at us.

    Obama is the worst because I can't see any explanation for what he's doing other than trying to destroy the country so that he can rebuild it in his own vision. He and the progressive statists that act as his mouthpiece are doing the classic dictator trick: Teach people to be paranoid about a powerful enemy lurking in the shadows (in this case, racists) that only more regulation can combat. Teach people that ANY disagreement with the state's policies makes them the enemy. Tell people that they may be the enemy and not even know it and only more retraining can ensure their loyalty. Turn morality upside down so that right is wrong, wrong is right and when people are hopelessly confused, point out that the state is the only source of truth. Destroy the country and everyone in it so that nobody is able to help themselves even if they want to, and keep telling people that the reason they are wallowing in poverty and misery is because the unseen enemy is keeping them down. Keep a perpetual war going against the enemy and tell the people that when the war ends, we will see a bright and heavenly society...and never end the "war".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    I still think LBJ and Nixon were worse. Obama is basically Carter in my estimation.
    I think Nixon was a criminal, but still a much better President than either Carter or Obama. By contrast Carter was a much better person than Nixon (by a long shot) but a horribly ineffective President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Clinton was WAY worse than GWB. Bush wasn't great, but Clinton had the assault weapons ban, Black Hawk Down, Waco, Kosovo, Whitewater, failing to go after al-Qaeda even after repeated attacks, and the Lewinsky scandal to his name. The world hated us during Bush's administration, but they hated and laughed at us during the Clinton years. Now, again the world laughs at us.

    Obama is the worst because I can't see any explanation for what he's doing other than trying to destroy the country so that he can rebuild it in his own vision. He and the progressive statists that act as his mouthpiece are doing the classic dictator trick: Teach people to be paranoid about a powerful enemy lurking in the shadows (in this case, racists) that only more regulation can combat. Teach people that ANY disagreement with the state's policies makes them the enemy. Tell people that they may be the enemy and not even know it and only more retraining can ensure their loyalty. Turn morality upside down so that right is wrong, wrong is right and when people are hopelessly confused, point out that the state is the only source of truth. Destroy the country and everyone in it so that nobody is able to help themselves even if they want to, and keep telling people that the reason they are wallowing in poverty and misery is because the unseen enemy is keeping them down. Keep a perpetual war going against the enemy and tell the people that when the war ends, we will see a bright and heavenly society...and never end the "war".
    Sounds like a movie I just watched called "Equilibrium". The gunfights were pretty good, albeit different. It's on Netflix if anyone is interested. Basically statist regime dictators, jack booted thugs, and a subservient population living in a post American dystopia.

    http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...v4QLrWJMkAGInA
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